Header/Tune Decision - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

GenRuleAThumb · 08-12-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smg1138

Nice! I've got the same combo. I should get a dyno done sometime. Was that the OTS tune or custom?

That was the OTS stage 2 tune

Dr. BRZ · 08-12-2017, 08:02 PM

I make 205whp with e85 and el headers

Blue Bird · 08-12-2017, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Xxyion

I'm currently running the JDL UEL header with a custom tune from Delicious.

I'm going to be honest, my personal experience is to spend the extra money and buy top of the line stuff. Buy used if you have to. With generic brand headers and whatnot, you might feel some gains but ive heard many comments on how people dont think it's worth the money. I have a definite increase in torque and overall power. The car feels like i'm running E85 with a tad less oomph. So running E85 is going to make it that much better.

Plus with a custom tune it's going to be geared more towards your car and the way you already like to drive so it's going to feel that much better. My previous header setup was hte Open Flash Headers with the off the shelf Stage 2 tune. My custom tune with the JDL headers feels WAY better and the car feels a lot more powerful compared to the canned tune.

How much did it cost you to custom tune it?

NRXRaptor · 08-13-2017, 02:20 AM

That good feel when I just managed to nab some JDL UEL catted headers for $700. The cat had been replaced under warranty and the thermal coating was redone as well. I pretty much stole a top tier UEL header lol

Xxyion · 08-15-2017, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Bird

How much did it cost you to custom tune it?

I bought the Delicious Flash n Go tune and had Zach custom it. I didnt pay for the cable as i used my mechanics so overall it cost around 300$

BierMeister · 01-12-2019, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakinit

I ordered the Tomei UEL header and overpipe from ft86speedfactory. They were both in stock so hopefully it doesn't take too long to show up. I'm gonna get an ECUtek license and a canned tune from a local shop around me after i install them.

How'd that combo work out?
I'm looking for a good alternative to the ace/delicious tune combo. Everybody's raving about it but there has to be an option that can provide 75% of the performance at half the price. Unless the ace header is made of vibranium or something.

Lantanafrs2 · 01-12-2019, 09:50 PM

I wouldn't spend a ton on header/ tune. I would buy a good quality used header and oft and save money for f.i. of some sort.

Dr. BRZ · 01-13-2019, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BierMeister

How'd that combo work out?
I'm looking for a good alternative to the ace/delicious tune combo. Everybody's raving about it but there has to be an option that can provide 75% of the performance at half the price. Unless the ace header is made of vibranium or something.

I have tomei el headers and full tomei exhaust so not only did i get power but also dropped weight. Best gains right there. I'm on e85 on oft tune. I would say tomei is the best headers out there without it costing over $1000.

bfrank1972 · 01-13-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BierMeister

How'd that combo work out?

I'm looking for a good alternative to the ace/delicious tune combo. Everybody's raving about it but there has to be an option that can provide 75% of the performance at half the price. Unless the ace header is made of vibranium or something.

Like another poster said, if you're looking for power on the cheap, watch the for sale ads here. You can pick up a used good condition set of headers for cheap. I picked up a set of P&L catted el headers for under 400 here a couple years ago and they rip. Plenty of good headers out there that will give you well over 75% of an ace setup for well under half the cost. They are nice, but not magic.

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SuperTom · 01-13-2019, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BierMeister

How'd that combo work out?
I'm looking for a good alternative to the ace/delicious tune combo. Everybody's raving about it but there has to be an option that can provide 75% of the performance at half the price. Unless the ace header is made of vibranium or something.

Ive had both. Tomei/Gruppe-S used with an OFT used will get you 75% of the way to ACE/Delicious. I just happened to have extra cash from selling another vehicle to make the jump otherwise would have been happy with the GruppeS OFT combo.

BierMeister · 01-13-2019, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom

Ive had both. Tomei/Gruppe-S used with an OFT used will get you 75% of the way to ACE/Delicious. I just happened to have extra cash from selling another vehicle to make the jump otherwise would have been happy with the GruppeS OFT combo.

How was the torque at low rpm? I've heard that OFT provides more torque across the power band but you lose some down low. And I need that for traffic...

86TOYO2k17 · 01-13-2019, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BierMeister

How'd that combo work out?
I'm looking for a good alternative to the ace/delicious tune combo. Everybody's raving about it but there has to be an option that can provide 75% of the performance at half the price. Unless the ace header is made of vibranium or something.

Few things to consider, ace headers come with overpipe, would be about 200$ to buy separate. Also ace 250 has more HP and is 300$ cheaper then 350.

Also why leave gains on the table? Ppl want to save a few bucks on header But then want more power so end up tossing more money at exhausts, pulleys, driveshafts, flywheels, lightweight mods etc. just get the best from the start and you won’t regret it.

Or just go turbo.

jflogerzi · 01-13-2019, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperTom

Ive had both. Tomei/Gruppe-S used with an OFT used will get you 75% of the way to ACE/Delicious. I just happened to have extra cash from selling another vehicle to make the jump otherwise would have been happy with the GruppeS OFT combo as the best budget combo for this car.

Listen to Super Tom. You can not beat a Gruppe-S with an OFT. Don't bother with a over pipe. Gains are very little to nothing. Same some cash for a nice catback. Invida R400 would pair and sound really good with the combo above. Can't have racecar without some racecar sound.

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SuperTom · 01-13-2019, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BierMeister

How was the torque at low rpm? I've heard that OFT provides more torque across the power band but you lose some down low. And I need that for traffic...

Im not sure what OFT does on its own but combined with the Gruppe-s headers eliminates the midrange torque which is the main area used in daily driving

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