Catted Headers - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Exrald · 06-06-2017, 05:28 PM

Hey Guys!

I am planning to buy a header, but I want to keepy car street legal. Cali is crazy about emissions laws, so I gotta make sure I don't get in trouble.

Ft86speedfactory offers an UEL Catted Header. If the header has a cat, will it be considered as carb legal? I also want to pass smog, so I gotta make sure. It'll be soon when I get smog check.

Thanks!

2013 Scion FRS @Exrald.frs

funwheeldrive · 06-06-2017, 05:49 PM

If I recall correctly, there is no aftermarket header that is smog legal for our cars, even with the cat. It would probably pass the pipe sniffer, but if they do a visual check I can't imagine it would pass.

BigFatFlip · 06-06-2017, 06:29 PM

^Yep, what funwheeldrive said, there no such thing. Even if you get a catted header, it is technically not "street legal" for CA standard. The only thing that would be is the OEM header. Most folks just get the header they want and keep it until the car needs to be smogged.

chaoskaze · 06-06-2017, 06:33 PM

register your car in Oregon or Nevada.

chaoskaze · 06-06-2017, 06:35 PM

oh ya you can also pick up some 2017 oem header lol.....they have improved exhaust flow, not joking. lol

BRZyJ · 06-06-2017, 06:35 PM

If you want to do much of anything performance-wise here you kind of need to resign yourself to the fact you're going to have to hold on to all of the OEM parts and swap them in and out every couple of years.

Mchilese · 06-06-2017, 06:36 PM

Good info! I'm getting to the point of putting headers on, and I'd been wondering about this. Now that I know I'd have to keep the stock headers anyway, I'll just save some money and get the catless.

Thanks for the heads up.

BigFatFlip · 06-06-2017, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by chaoskaze

oh ya you can also pick up some 2017 oem header lol.....they have improved exhaust flow, not joking. lol

I thought it was more the improved intake manifold? I would guess you would also need some kind of tuning to get the benefits.

chaoskaze · 06-06-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

I thought it was more the improved intake manifold? I would guess you would also need some kind of tuning to get the benefits.

They are 5% wider from exhaust port & 8% wider up till the cat.

BigFatFlip · 06-06-2017, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

They are 5% wider from exhaust port & 8% wider up till the cat.

Clipdat · 06-06-2017, 07:49 PM

mmm 5-8% wider...

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

They are 5% wider from exhaust port & 8% wider up till the cat.

Exrald · 06-06-2017, 08:33 PM

I was thinking it'd still be carb legal. Time to do catless and save the stock header then! Gonna smell the sweet scent of HP boost!

2013 Scion FRS @Exrald.frs

undefindedt · 06-06-2017, 10:05 PM

The reason why catted headers aren't CARB legal is nobody wants to pay the extortion fee to get their shit to come with a sticker.

CARB is a fckin joke. I hate dealing with them. Try doing a engine swap in Cali and abiding by their guidelines. Your opinion of them will change. All ill say on the forum ha.

mr_squirrel · 06-06-2017, 11:03 PM

For a 2017 MT, is it still worth it to change to a catless header?

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Exrald Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS & 2022 GR86 Location: San Francisco Posts: 208 Thanks: 217 Thanked 32 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was thinking it'd still be carb legal. Time to do catless and save the stock header then! Gonna smell the sweet scent of HP boost! 2013 Scion FRS @Exrald.frs __________________ --------------------- 2013 Scion FRS 2022 Toyota GR86

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undefindedt Hi. Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 14' Asphalt Location: Tracy Posts: 321 Thanks: 237 Thanked 182 Times in 129 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The reason why catted headers aren't CARB legal is nobody wants to pay the extortion fee to get their shit to come with a sticker. CARB is a fckin joke. I hate dealing with them. Try doing a engine swap in Cali and abiding by their guidelines. Your opinion of them will change. All ill say on the forum ha. __________________ 14' ZN6 92' RN80 81' RN38 "Shitbox" I like Toyota's IG: undefindedt

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mr_squirrel Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Drives: 2017 86 Halo Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 64 Thanks: 28 Thanked 18 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For a 2017 MT, is it still worth it to change to a catless header? Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using Tapatalk __________________ The Build

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