Price of Boost

[ryude]

In my experience, boosting an NA car is very expensive. If you have to "budget" a kit, then you can't afford boost. You have to be able to buy it without even asking the price, because you WILL have problems and it WILL be expensive.

[Boosted2.0]

Expect prices similar to the Nissan prices you quoted for anything worth having.

[arghx7]

Originally Posted by ryude

In my experience, boosting an NA car is very expensive.

unless it's a single cam EG chassis Civic...

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by synacks

Hello, I suppose this is my first post on here but it is an important question because it could make or break my decision to get an FR-S or BRZ.

Once these turbo kits get made and the other kits that follow, S/C and possibly twincharge kits as well, they are going to have a price, obviously. What can we expect it to be?

Now I've driven a few different cars and depending on the make of the car and how expensive it was and including vendors thinking how elite the car might be, the price of boosting your vehicle can vary.

I had a Cobalt SS a few years ago and the price to boost those, the non boosted ones, was as low as $1500-2500. Reasonable for the type of car. Domestic and a relatively inexpensive car. And people were easily making ~350whp.

I also owned a Nismo 370Z and my god every vendor thought that car was god's gift to man. So turbo kits were $6,500-11,000. Supercharged kits were $6,500-8,500. In my opinion those are ridiculous prices and even if it is a JDM vehicle, it shouldn't matter.

Originally Posted by arghx7

low volume sports car bro. do the math.

To arghx7's point - no volume sales here.... niche pricing for a niche market, especially in the begining. A properly and fully tested setup...I bet it's going to be slightly north of Z's prices you listed.

[Synack]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

To arghx's point - no volume sales here.... niche pricing for a niche market, especially in the begining. A properly and fully tested setup...I bet it's going to be slightly north of Z's prices you listed.

I seriously doubt it'll be more than the Z...... Even less people boost the Z than will for this car and the kits for the 370 are all twin-turbo and made by huge name companies. GReddy, GTM, etc. I agree with whoever said 5-6k range. And I'd definitely pay that, personally. But anymore than that seems to be overkill. Just my .02

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by synacks

I seriously doubt it'll be more than the Z...... Even less people boost the Z than will for this car and the kits for the 370 are all twin-turbo and made by huge name companies. GReddy, GTM, etc. I agree with whoever said 5-6k range. And I'd definitely pay that, personally. But anymore than that seems to be overkill. Just my .02

I would agree depending on HP gain and how long in market. Brand new out of the gate is going to cost.... Over time maybe different.

[Zgrinch]

I just read this post over on the Perrin ECU tuning thread. This is exactly what I am talking about. Don't expect the first ones to be cheap, because you are going to be disappointed.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=122

[Synack]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

I just read this post over on the Perrin ECU tuning thread. This is exactly what I am talking about. Don't expect the first ones to be cheap, because you are going to be disappointed.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=122

Absolutely, it's always like this. I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent $3,000 kit 4-5 years down the road.

[jedibow]

Originally Posted by uspspro

It's not really about the abuse of 300 whp, it's the sky high compressions ratio, and trying to control detonation. With the direct injection, presumably the detonation threshold is higher, but boosting the FA20 is really unknown territory at this point. If you were willing to add methanol injection, sounds like something in the ballpark of 300 whp could be feasible.

Why is everybody so concerned about the compression? Yes it will be more of a challenge to tuners, but IMO that is what you pay them for. One benefit of higher compression is better throttle response and off boost performance, as well as being able to use LESS boost to achieve the same results. I'm picturing a car in my mind right now, The Pontiac solstice GXP, and Saturn sky redline, both direct injected, yes they had lower compression, but they are also running more boost, why didn't they blowup?

A properly sized turbo, with adequate intercooling, and correct tuning at 7 to 9 PSI should be easily achievable, and will not be any less reliable than sticking a turbo on any other naturally aspirated vehicle.

G

[jedibow]

Originally Posted by synacks

Absolutely, it's always like this. I wouldn't be surprised to see a decent $3,000 kit 4-5 years down the road.

competition is always good for the consumer

[Don@Accelerated]

Originally Posted by jedibow

competition is always good for the consumer

Its not possible to have a $3000 Turbo kit.j

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

Its not possible to have a $3000 Turbo kit.j

Hmmm...like I said..several of you are going to be disappointed.

$3,000-$4,000 BRZ/FRS turbo....
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hdx9JjzDfo&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Gary Wright - Dream Weaver - YouTube[/ame]

[jedibow]

Originally Posted by Don@Accelerated

Its not possible to have a $3000 Turbo kit.j

I never said 3k, I only stated competition is good for the consumer

[Silverdub]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

Hmmm...like I said..several of you are going to be disappointed.

$3,000-$4,000 BRZ/FRS turbo....

Wtf