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Old 05-31-2017, 11:05 PM   #15
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They are based on AST 4150s similar to how the RCE T2s are based on the KW v3.
Racecomp may take issue with that comparison. Everything I've read says the T2's are based off the KW Clubsports.
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Racecomp may take issue with that comparison. Everything I've read says the T2's are based off the KW Clubsports.
KW US has told us that 2-way Clubsports are the same as V3's with different spring rates and camber plates. (This was a different platform, not the 86)

Not even different valving as they said it was ok to change from the progressive V3 spring to the linear rate Clubsport spring and use the same damper settings... None of the hardware to do so mated up so we never got the chance to test that out and we got the full clubsport package instead of converting the V3's over. The top of the damper interface was different to work with the camber plates instead of OE top hats, but other than that everything else was the same externally between the two dampers.

Totally different platform, and not a sleight against anybody, just what I read from KW reps over email.



imo what's important about the T2's is the consistently good reviews and Racecomp support.
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You can do extremely well on KW V3's right out of the box. Won lots of national events on mine, and got 3rd at nats on them in 2015. The car definitely had time left in it too, I just couldn't get there.
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imo what's important about the T2's is the consistently good reviews and Racecomp support.
Thanks!

On this platform we started with Clubsports and went from there for development, but it's basically a moot point (for V3 vs Clubsport) as ours have different valving and spring rates anyway. Clubsport is the closer comparison (and we actually named ours T2 Clubsports in this case to reflect that). But you also get our warranty!

For older GD Impreza platform, Clubsports weren't a thing yet when we were developing our T2s, so that made everything different. We switched to linear rear springs with helpers, different spring perches, very different valving, etc...

FWIW I do like KW V3 on these cars but they are a little soft IMO for STX.

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On this platform we started with Clubsports and went from there for development, but it's basically a moot point (for V3 vs Clubsport) as ours have different valving and spring rates anyway. Clubsport is the closer comparison (and we actually named ours T2 Clubsports in this case to reflect that). But you also get our warranty!

For older GD Impreza platform, Clubsports weren't a thing yet when we were developing our T2s, so that made everything different. We switched to linear rear springs with helpers, different spring perches, very different valving, etc...

FWIW I do like KW V3 on these cars but they are a little soft IMO for STX.

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Are the rce t2, kw V3 and kw Cs all the same body length?
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:26 PM   #20
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Are the rce t2, kw V3 and kw Cs all the same body length?
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Wow, that's pretty low. I have my Tarmac 2's at about 640mm right now and feel so lifted compared to most other STX guys. I daily drive my FRS though, so going much lower has been problematic on the crappy roads around here.
I live in Wisconsin, our roads are far from good.
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Yeah KW, Racecomp, both awesome bang for the buck coils.
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Since they weren't mentioned before, Fortune Auto and Feal get a decent rep for <$2k coilovers and you can pick the spring rates you want. I think a car or two has trophied on Feal's at nationals over the years.

But I think I'd call up about those Megan's before going the FA/Feal route.
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Is this Megan Racing suggestion a running joke or am I missing something?
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