2016 Honda Civic Thread (10th gen)

[DarkSunrise]

I don't mind the floating cage and weight reduction to compensate, but it should have been on OEM tires to set a legitimate time.

[vh_supra26]

Honda’s Turbocharged Civic Si Goes On Sale, Starting From $23,900

Honda’s first-ever turbocharged Civic Si Coupe and Sedan will become available at Honda dealerships across the U.S. starting from tomorrow.

The new 2017 Honda Civic Si is priced from $23,900 MSRP for either the Coupe or the Sedan bodystyle.

Under the bonnet lives Honda’s turbocharged 1.5-litre petrol with direct injection and dual-variable cam timing, producing 205hp and 192lb-ft of torque. The engine is mated to a short-throw six-speed manual transmission.

The new generation is also significantly lighter from previous Si models, with the Si Sedan being down 96lbs from the previous model with a curb weight of 2,906lbs and the Si Coupe being 113lbs lighter from its predecessor, at 2,889lbs.

The more rigid chassis benefits from sport-tuned suspension with two-mode adaptive dampers, a limited-slip differential, larger brake rotors and more rigid stabilizer bars, among others. The front upper control arms are ultra-rigid and come straight from the Civic Type R.

The exterior look is enhanced with a gloss black fascia, larger lower air intakes, 18-inch alloys and a chrome-finished center-mounted polygonal exhaust. The Si Coupe further adds a rear full-width light bar and a raised rear spoiler.

The cabin features bolstered sport seats with red stitching that runs across the interior. The red detailing continues onto the driver’s TFT meter as well as the audio illumination.

[funwheeldrive]

It's weird, I just read an article saying it was $24995?

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

It's weird, I just read an article saying it was $24995?

From Honda's press release (not clickbait).

http://hondanews.com/releases/2017-h...g-and-epa-data

Civic Si Sedan 1.5 L Turbo 6MT $23,900
Civic Si Sedan 1.5 L Turbo with Summer Tires 6MT $24,100
Civic Si Coupe 1.5 L Turbo 6MT $23,900
Civic Si Coupe 1.5 L Turbo with Summer Tires 6MT $24,100

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

From Honda's press release (not clickbait).

http://hondanews.com/releases/2017-h...g-and-epa-data

Civic Si Sedan 1.5 L Turbo 6MT $23,900
Civic Si Sedan 1.5 L Turbo with Summer Tires 6MT $24,100
Civic Si Coupe 1.5 L Turbo 6MT $23,900
Civic Si Coupe 1.5 L Turbo with Summer Tires 6MT $24,100

Thanks, I went on Hondas site and saw for myself last night. So they should be at dealerships now right? I wouldn't mind test driving one, I think it will surprise a lot of people.

[funwheeldrive]

Are there any worthwhile reviews out yet?

[WolfpackS2k]

A lot of "first drive" reviews, but not official road tests.

[vh_supra26]

[Zaku]

Probably a 10 K markup for the first year to a couple of months and close to 38K out the door with taxes and other items. Still, it's very exciting!

[WolfpackS2k]

LOL, no thanks.

I'll take a Camaro SS or Mustang GT over a CTR without hesitation.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

LOL, no thanks.

I'll take a Camaro SS or Mustang GT over a CTR without hesitation.

You can't throw a mountain bike into a Mustang or Camaro though. I would probably pick a FORS over the CTR though.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

You can't throw a mountain bike into a Mustang or Camaro though. I would probably pick a FORS over the CTR though.

:p

[serialk11r]

I sat in an Uber that was a 1.5L Turbo today, it actually felt very fast. Not a surprise, given the engine is very torquey and can easily make a bunch more power with some small modifications. The interior is also quite good.

[vh_supra26]

CANTIL, Calif. — When the latest flavors of Honda's prolific Civic nameplate — this time it's the Si coupe and sedan — went on sale last month, two numbers stood out: 205 and 24,775.

The first number is the 2017 Civic Si's horsepower rating. Fans of the previous version will recognize that as the exact same output as before, but it's now coming from a new 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine that is becoming ubiquitous throughout Honda's lineup. Torque is also improved, now rated at 192 pounds-feet compared with 174 pounds-feet.

While 205 hp is nothing to sneeze at, the switch to a turbo engine had many Si fans hoping for more. And more is possible, according to Honda engineers. But there's a reason for the current number.

The engineers said "you can tune more power into it, but all of that takes away from the durability of the engine," Rob Keough, senior product planner on the Civic, told Automotive News at Honda's proving grounds. "Honda likes to build their engines to last hundreds of thousands of miles, so they're working toward that target."

Honda was also keen to keep the Civic Si affordable, and that's where the $24,775 comes in. It's the base price including destination for the coupe or sedan and includes such standard goodies as a sunroof, sport mode with adaptive suspension and a limited-slip differential.

"We wanted it to be attainable and affordable, so our target for Si was really to come in at this price point with this performance level."

Rob Keough
Honda Civic senior project manager
That price was made possible by the sheer volumes of 10th-generation Civics Honda has sold over the past two years — well over 500,000 — Keough said.

Using the larger 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder that's in the Civic Type R would have radically shifted what the Si was. Even tuned down from the Type R's 306 hp, such an Si would have cost closer to $30,000 — too rich for Honda's blood.

"The Si has always been in the [price] range that it's in," Keough said. "We wanted it to be attainable and affordable, so our target for Si was really to come in at this price point with this performance level."

But he didn't rule out a model to slot between the Si and the Type R, which is expected to start around $34,000. Such a variant could use the smaller 1.5-liter if needed.

"There's maybe other configurations and things that they can do with this motor," Keough said of his engineers. He also didn't rule out using a detuned Type R motor.

"The market will tell us and then we'll see what we can do about it," he added.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2017...ivic-sis-power