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04-28-2017, 11:51 PM | #29 | |
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I saw you post the "would you buy again" thread as well, and I was curious, what are you trying to haul that won't fit in your 86? I've had the opposite experience. For a coupe I'm insanely impressed with how much space this thing has. I fit an entire drum kit + hardware inside mine with plenty of room to spare. The design of the space is fabulous. I can link a video if I need to prove it |
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Some other people recommended some random ass cars...just no! I want a 2-door, I want a manual, I want something around $25k; I don't want an automatic, I don't want some old shit for the same price, I sure as hell don't want a hot hatch! |
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Went to school in the North Bronx for 2 years. Seriously? If I wanted a "practical" New York car .... it would be a used AWD sports sedan.
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Never drove there but based upon my experiences in many other large cities I would say a Challenger would be among my very last choices not my first. Little point in having a big v8 where you can never get to open it up. The fuel milage caused by driving in traffic alone would kill the idea for me.
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Get a MiniCooper S 2017 is about 26k 2016 would be cheaper. Good power and lots of storage space
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Huh? Umm no, just a suggestion.
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I went to a dealership a while ago to take a look at a 2014 Challenger R/T. The salesman looked like he deserved an offer. An offer sheet was filled in by me and for some reason I started getting anxious, as in hindsight I was only a thousand dollars off. I had never made an offer that I had not been able to follow through on.
Test drive? My FR-S had on one occasion, a 160-170lb woman in the back seat, and it was just doable. As recently as over a year ago I had two young woman both weighing, over 200 pounds each. Lets say it was a tad bit embarrassing. At least when we went to the casino, after the fact we had dinner with no complimentary rolls, I knew she was still hungry. Because I won a little while she was on her smartphone, we went to Denny's afterwards. The Challenger, I am sure can fit large people in the two back seats. The interior upgrade in 2015 was major improvement. I have to say though, before dusk, with the dim interior night lights you probably can't tell the difference. But under broad day light, there is something left to be desired. |
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My guilty wish is a Plum Crazy Challenger Scat Pack, and in an ideal world I'd have one in addition to my FR-S. That being said, I cannot make the practical argument for the Challenger at all. Yeah, the trunk space is there, but the times I actually NEED that much space are so few and far between, the rest of the time would be a waste. I've hauled four wheels and four tires to the shop, I've hauled wheels, jack and tools to track days, I've even hauled lumber (with the seat backs down and poked through the passenger window)!
The other 99% of the time, it's just me or my wife and myself and there's plenty of room for our luggage in the back on roadtrips. It's comfortable for long hauls, and it doesn't suck the gas (while it's cheap now - gas will go up again, it always does). As for driving in Manhattan, on the one hand I'd want something small and nimble - on the other hand, straight line, stop-light through next stop-light ability is a valuable benefit. That being said the longer wheel-base would give a nicer ride. I always thought our car rode pretty well, but it's only because I don't have to drive in town a lot. On crummy downtown streets, or frost-heaved and potholed roads, the FR-S is brutal. I've drivien Mustang GTs, Camaro SSs and Challenger R/Ts, and I definitely prefer the Challenger over the others. They're all big cars, but the Challenger was the only one that didn't feel as big as it was. The Mustang felt like I expected and the Camaro felt like I was driving a WWI armored car with it's tiny window slits. Five hundred bucks gets you an OpenFlash Tablet (cheaper if you find a used one - make sure it's unmarried), and even the basic tune really wakes the Twins up. Might be something to tide you over. |
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Get an Audi S4 with extended warranty.
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If you decide to get a challenger, just get a charger instead. Pretty much same car with 4 doors, and if you get it in the right color folks will think twice about cutting you off.
2015 and up mustangs now have independent rear suspension. The old live axel setup would kick out if you went over a bump at anything near the limit. These should be more stable but I haven't driven a new one for comparison. Before you make the decision, I suggest taking a day to drive upstate. The back roads are generally in good condition and are where the 86 twins really shine. If you don't fall in love with it there, it's probably not the best car for you. |
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