2016 Honda Civic Thread (10th gen)

[Coaster]

Finally a TR on the street

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[slow86]

Looks great in black.

Kind of like the 86, it doesn't look good in pictures. New Civics and 86 look great in person.

[WolfpackS2k]

The new Civics in general look horrible in person, at least to me.

As to them looking better in black; of course they do. When the whole car is black the uber tacky fake black plastic air vents don't stand out.


Also, LOL at the new Civic Si. Honda just did the BRZ/FRS world a favor

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

The new Civics in general look horrible in person, at least to me.

As to them looking better in black; of course they do. When the whole car is black the uber tacky fake black plastic air vents don't stand out.


Also, LOL at the new Civic Si. Honda just did the BRZ/FRS world a favor

It has gone to the point now where an old Civic DX with steelies from 20+ years ago no longer looks hideous.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by krayzie

It has gone to the point now where an old Civic DX with steelies from 20+ years ago no longer looks hideous.

Would still buy the new SI. Not a huge fan of the exterior, but the interior looks rather nice. I'm fairly over the spartan esque interior of the FRS

[WolfpackS2k]

^Switch to a BRZ then? Nicer interior than an FRS.

And there's a difference between driver focused and spartan. An S2000 (and maybe FRS?) interior is spartan. BRZ interior isn't spartan IMO.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

The new Civics in general look horrible in person, at least to me.

As to them looking better in black; of course they do. When the whole car is black the uber tacky fake black plastic air vents don't stand out.


Also, LOL at the new Civic Si. Honda just did the BRZ/FRS world a favor

The hoodline is what kills it. Pedestrian regs....

I drove a buddy's new civic HB... Very nice car, given the mainstream focus!
Great ergonomics (didn't try the radio though). Good throttle response and a decent paddle shifter.

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[Cole]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

^Switch to a BRZ then? Nicer interior than an FRS.

And there's a difference between driver focused and spartan. An S2000 (and maybe FRS?) interior is spartan. BRZ interior isn't spartan IMO.

Six of one half a dozen of another. No interest in trading my car for the exact same car but with 3 or 4 more features. Don't give a shit about push button start, heated seats or any of the other gimmicks it offers.

I'm over this platform and want something that's comfier, without the wind noise, creaks and rattles everywhere.

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Cole

want something that's comfier, without the wind noise, creaks and rattles everywhere.

I used to think this would be the Audi A4, until I figured on a test drive that it's tight inside and not all that comfy with the sports package, and creaks and rattles everywhere. But the lack of wind noise was brilliant.

My family also never had a Honda/Acura with creaks and rattles but not sure about the new stuff post Y2K. The twins have really improved on the wind noise dept compare to older cars with frameless windows.

[unhappymeal]

Originally Posted by Cole

Six of one half a dozen of another. No interest in trading my car for the exact same car but with 3 or 4 more features. Don't give a shit about push button start, heated seats or any of the other gimmicks it offers.

I'm over this platform and want something that's comfier, without the wind noise, creaks and rattles everywhere.

I hear you. No creaks and rattles yet for me, but a 2.5 hour drive to the Kawarthas was painful with the wind and tire noise.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Cole

I'm over this platform and want something that's comfier, without the wind noise, creaks and rattles everywhere.

I was about to pontificate about how that's one of the few things about the 86 that I want to change (or rather, makes me consider a second car) and wonder what features are in a Civic that aren't in an 86 but we're on the same page, a comfier cruiser would be nice sometimes.

I don't think you'll find that in a Honda product, like @Dadhawk mentions above they all ride rather stiff, you might get reduced wind noise and cabin noise, but not much else at the sacrifice of a lot of fun. I've got a 2007 TSX that has no cabin creaks or rattles after 10 years and 100k miles, but wind noise, tire noise, and ride quality are only marginally better than an 86 (and seat comfort is way worse imo, I never hurt after driving my 86, more than 2.5 hours in the TSX and I'll be achy that evening), I've been in much better. Fit and finish should be improved though.

At this point I think I'll eventually spring for slapping a bunch of sound deadening into my car and going for a softer suspension setup, but that's a few years away. I don't begrudge the car or the designers, the thing is fucking light and you pay for it in NVH, that's why I bought the car, and I'm happy to think I can improve it once I'm willing to take the weight penalty.

[Cole]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I was about to pontificate about how that's one of the few things about the 86 that I want to change (or rather, makes me consider a second car) and wonder what features are in a Civic that aren't in an 86 but we're on the same page, a comfier cruiser would be nice sometimes.

I don't think you'll find that in a Honda product, like @Dadhawk mentions above they all ride rather stiff, you might get reduced wind noise and cabin noise, but not much else at the sacrifice of a lot of fun. I've got a 2007 TSX that has no cabin creaks or rattles after 10 years and 100k miles, but wind noise, tire noise, and ride quality are only marginally better than an 86 (and seat comfort is way worse imo, I never hurt after driving my 86, more than 2.5 hours in the TSX and I'll be achy that evening), I've been in much better. Fit and finish should be improved though.

At this point I think I'll eventually spring for slapping a bunch of sound deadening into my car and going for a softer suspension setup, but that's a few years away. I don't begrudge the car or the designers, the thing is fucking light and you pay for it in NVH, that's why I bought the car, and I'm happy to think I can improve it once I'm willing to take the weight penalty.

That's the thing, I've never driven a civic that wasn't my friend's '94, so I don't know if it offers what I'm looking for, I just like the idea that the Si will retail for a reasonable amount, doesn't look like tron meets Optimus prime and from pictures it looks fairly well equipped. To be totally honest, my brother's 2016 Corolla is very nice, and reminds me of my '04 Camry in a lot of ways, ie, checks all the boxes I'm looking for, it's just very low on power.

The other problem is I see the things that my truck has, like remote start, dual CC, comfy ride, quiet, and I'm like "damn, I actually love driving 3700km in 3 days in this thing and look forward to it".

Don't get me wrong, I like the FRS, but my wants have changed and I'm not as attached to the platform as I was a few years ago when I bought it.

[Scrappydoo]

Originally Posted by Cole

Six of one half a dozen of another. No interest in trading my car for the exact same car but with 3 or 4 more features. Don't give a shit about push button start, heated seats or any of the other gimmicks it offers.

I'm over this platform and want something that's comfier, without the wind noise, creaks and rattles everywhere.

And the car?

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Cole

Don't get me wrong, I like the FRS, but my wants have changed and I'm not as attached to the platform as I was a few years ago when I bought it.

Oh I totally get that, when I bought the 86 my dream was to strip it out and make a lightweight track weapon, now in my head I'm looking at where sound deadening would be most beneficial and have no problem taking on the weight.

I still want a fun car that's track/autox capable for the indefinite future, so my 86 isn't going anywhere. But I would love to be able to roadtrip it without a second thought, like you said, looking forward to 3 days straight of driving, spend a day on the backroads getting to the track, beat on it all Saturday on track, and take my time driving it home the next day on different backroads would be a great weekend imo. It's all about the tradeoffs you take to make the budget work, Civic Si would likely be a damn good compromise to that end.

Someday I'll need a car that can do that with 4 doors, hopefully by then I'll be able to afford something with a German performance badge on it and power to make up for the weight.