Innovate (Sprintex) Supercharger Owners Topic

[ajcarson11]

Originally Posted by sroby

Steve, thanks . I couldn't believe it when I saw it. I know the ecutek tune is the way to go. I am still reading and learning about it everyday. It will be later part of june before I can complete the install. In your opinion, Steve I know the ecutek will make more power, but I'm looking t get 225 to 230 whp. If I am running the 75 mm pulley with the sprintek tune in their tablet, do you think that can be obtained with the carb stage 2 tune. It is only 479.00 usd. the ecutek with all the license and tune time I am looking at over 1300.00 usd. If that is only going to make 10 to 15 hp more than the sprintex tuner I am trying to figure out which way to go. I keep reading about the bunny hop and slight hesitation these guys over here keep having with the delicious tune and the moto east tune. With yours running the way you have it tuned in the uk, have yu ever expierenced any of those problems as well or should I just look for a good tunner here in the Atlanta area where I live? I really need your help on this one steve to set my mind at ease please sir. Best regards steve

I'll give my 2c here --

You should be able to come up with an ECUTEK license for $350, and an e-tune from Moto-east for $200-250, or $350 from delicious. If you don't have someone close to you that you can borrow an ECUTEK dongle/USB from (free), then you'd have to purchase the dongle. But you can get one used as well. I will vouch for the moto-east e-tune. The tune on both 93 and E85 is flawless and drives just like stock. I had problems initially, but it was due to a loose bolt that was causing a grounding issue. In terms of the Sprintex 210, I don't think you'll find more experienced tuners than Mike at Moto-East, or the guys at Delicious. Especially at the power level you are going for, an E-tune would be incredibly smooth and straight forward.

I would hesitate to go with a factory type tune (like the sprintex in-house tune), as I'm not sure how many revisions they provide, and the tune won't be optimised for your car -- It will be an off-the-shelf setup (unless i'm misunderstanding correctly). I've not heard many good things about early sprintex/innovate tunes -- If you read the early pages of this thread you can see why I would be hesitant. This isn't to say that things haven't improved however.

Also -- Although you are shooting for 225-230whp, you may find that you want more down the road. I would say that most folks end up pushing for more power as they get used to things. In the event of this happening you'll definitely want a platform like ECUTEK so that you at least have the ability to run different pulleys, tunes, and fuels.

From my point of view, an E-tune makes more sense, with the most expensive situation being about 900-1000 USD.

[sroby]

Aj, thanks partner that makes total sense. I remember when I put one of the first Jackson racing supercharger kits on my 99 miata with the sport package I think it was the m48 eaton charger. It was a lot of fun, however in those days it came with a fuel card, that I believe was made for Oscar by Dobeck , one of the founders of power commander for the motorcycles. It was all we had then, I loved the charger but until the day I sold it I never once got rid of the occasional idle droop.

Anyway that is the route I am going to go. Thanks so much for your input. I will keep you posted. I still have one more surgery to get through with the VA from my Iraq war injury. I hope to be up to speed to start doing the install towards the late part of June. Best regards Steve

[riboyster]

Bunny hop / slight hesitation is a hardware limitation of the kit, not a tuning problem. It happens because the bypass valve is open until certain pressure parameters, resulting in less effective boost.
When it closes it causes a surge of power as the supercharger goes into full boost, which resonate slightly in the drivetrain tension.
Also the valve will flutter if it closes while the motor is under a certain load. Its going to happen regardless of the tune.

[sroby]

riboyster, thanks partner, I seem to remember a little bit of that now in the miata. That unit in the day didn't put out near the power that these units do. I am pretty sure it something that I can live with, or adapt to. thx for your input. Steve

[riboyster]

Originally Posted by sroby

riboyster, thanks partner, I seem to remember a little bit of that now in the miata. That unit in the day didn't put out near the power that these units do. I am pretty sure it something that I can live with, or adapt to. thx for your input. Steve

Have fun with the kit. We'll be here if you need anything

[KT86]

I own a 2012 Toyota GTS 86 with a sprintex supercharger. I have a drop in K&N air filter and was wondering if i am able to install a Perrin Cold Air Intake to it and would i notice much in sound and performance? Heres a photo of my engine bay -

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by KT86

I own a 2012 Toyota GTS 86 with a sprintex supercharger. I have a drop in K&N air filter and was wondering if i am able to install a Perrin Cold Air Intake to it and would i notice much in sound and performance? Heres a photo of my engine bay -

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2185246

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by KT86

I own a 2012 Toyota GTS 86 with a sprintex supercharger. I have a drop in K&N air filter and was wondering if i am able to install a Perrin Cold Air Intake to it and would i notice much in sound and performance? Heres a photo of my engine bay -

Performance = 0-4hp.
Sound = a little

See my build thread for youtube videos of my car on the track and street with the Perrin intake.

You need to remove the front bumper to install and clean your Perrin intake so keep that in mind. Not a quick 10 second filter change or clean anymore.

[KT86]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

Performance = 0-4hp.
Sound = a little

See my build thread for youtube videos of my car on the track and street with the Perrin intake.

You need to remove the front bumper to install and clean your Perrin intake so keep that in mind. Not a quick 10 second filter change or clean anymore.

would i need to re-tune changing out the stock airbox with K&N drop-in filter for the perrin? link me to your build please?

[Njjawn]

OK -

Car is all buckled up, and ready to go. Stage 2 with 69mm pulley.

It is NOT tuned yet, however before it gets its tune I would like to do a leak check/pull it out of the shop to make room for another car.

Is it okay to run this set up on a stock tune as long as its not actually being driven (past the point of gently backing it out)?

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by KT86

would i need to re-tune changing out the stock airbox with K&N drop-in filter for the perrin? link me to your build please?

At the bottom of each of my posts my build link shows as:
Current: 2013 Lightning Red Subaru BRZ Limited

Click on that.

If you were still running the stock tune you would be ok, but replacing intakes or exhaust before the catalytic converter especially with super/turbochargers would run better and safer with a good updated tune.

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by Njjawn

.Is it okay to run this set up on a stock tune as long as its not actually being driven (past the point of gently backing it out)?

Yes

[stockysnail]

Originally Posted by Njjawn

OK -

Car is all buckled up, and ready to go. Stage 2 with 69mm pulley.

It is NOT tuned yet, however before it gets its tune I would like to do a leak check/pull it out of the shop to make room for another car.

Is it okay to run this set up on a stock tune as long as its not actually being driven (past the point of gently backing it out)?

I was told to not start the car at all if you've installed a supercharger and still have the original stock tune on the car as it may do damage. You will at least need a generic tune created for your supercharger.

Perhaps the people that said that didn't give me all the details however. I'd play it safe personally and put the tune on first.

[KT86]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

At the bottom of each of my posts my build link shows as:
Current: 2013 Lightning Red Subaru BRZ Limited

Click on that.

If you were still running the stock tune you would be ok, but replacing intakes or exhaust before the catalytic converter especially with super/turbochargers would run better and safer with a good updated tune.

My car had been tuned when I had the supercharger installed