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Old 03-22-2017, 02:06 AM   #15
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can you enlighten us?
The notion that buying another car will avoid putting money into modifications is an illusion unless you buy a corolla.

Judging by the stock to modified ratio of 86/brz, I'd say OP will continue to throw money at the car even if it is missing a turbo.
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The notion that buying another car will avoid putting money into modifications is an illusion unless you buy a corolla.

Judging by the stock to modified ratio of 86/brz, I'd say OP will continue to throw money at the car even if it is missing a turbo.
thought you were alluding to throwing money into repairs
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There are lots of FRS and BRZ owners in my area that have left their cars stock.

And I think the OP is referring to putting lots of money towards repairs.

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The notion that buying another car will avoid putting money into modifications is an illusion unless you buy a corolla.

Judging by the stock to modified ratio of 86/brz, I'd say OP will continue to throw money at the car even if it is missing a turbo.
I think your view of the stock to modified ratio is skewed by this forum and possibly the local group you may hang with. If we consider "modded" to mean something substantial and not just some coilovers, plastidipped dashes, different wheels or a shift knob change I am pretty sure you will find that most of the cars are far closer to stock. "Mod" is a pretty broad term and the majority of owners are not throwing huge dollars into the car.
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Agree with Tcoat, most of the other frs /brz I see around here appear very stock.

Heck, when my car is shut off and parked the only obvious difference from stock is the plasti dipped body...

And it's been almost 6 years since I traded in my 2007 WRX, I miss the notion of what that car was more than anything else. These cars are so much more engaging for the driver.
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i would just get a brand new brz/frs if you can find one in your liking. Yes, these cars lose value fast but if you plan on keeping it in the long run, at least you know whats been done to it. For all you know, the used brz you bought could of been boosted but returned back to stock. Just saying... i have nothing against a used car. I just prefer to knowing that my car im getting hasn't been beat on.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

What makes you think this car isn't a money pit also?

They are all the same more or less, just features that don't really affect performance. Slight difference in tune (un-noticeable imo but that doesn't matter because you will just flash a tune anyways. No real issues with any models that aren't universal imo.
I mean in all seriousness. I am super duper surprised on how reliable my FR-S is, fucking amazing on gas and how crazy insanely cheap things are for this car. The aftermarket is huge and they are so cheap. I came from 6 AE86's > X8 Cressida > 2 SC300's > Toyota Starlet > 2 IS300's > 2013 FR-S and like yeah. The amount of money I spent on all of those cars are nothing compared to what i've spent and will spend on the FR-S. It is drift/fun ready from the get go! Get a 86 already and don't look back at the WRX lol!
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I agree there are a lot of stock cars out there. My car is probably one of them. Completely stock looking and sounding, but has about $8k of mods inside: coils, tyres, intake headers, tune oil cooler and brakes - it all adds up and not much of it is really visible at first glance.

But seriously, what are the chances of an enthusiast buying an 86 and keeping it stock after they came from a modded wrx? Pretty slim.

If OP likes the car, buy it. If they want to do it because they don't want to sink money into the car, then I'm guessing it's a false economy. If it's maintenance then fair enough. this car will be heaps cheaper to run.
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I have a modded WRX and going back and forth between driving it and the BRZ is quite a difference in power but I don't really mind it at all. It's a more engaging experience to drive in comparison. I have a lot of mods but plan to leave the engine mostly stock. My WRX has too many mods that make me drive it gingerly around and it's way more fun to hoon around with a mostly stock engine.
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Yea, what I mean by throwing money at the car, is paying for constant repairs. My wrx isn't heavily modded at all, just a car back exhaust, some wheels and an STi hoodscoop.

I would most likely do the same to the BRZ I want to get.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

What makes you think this car isn't a money pit also?

They are all the same more or less, just features that don't really affect performance. Slight difference in tune (un-noticeable imo but that doesn't matter because you will just flash a tune anyways. No real issues with any models that aren't universal imo.
Seemed pretty obvious to me he was talking about money for repairs to a 13 year old vehicle.


Also if his '04 WRX is stock then the BRZ is barely any slower, if at all. WRXs of that vintage only had 227 hp IIRC. The bump to 265 hp didn't happen until 2011 I think?
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Correct, 227/217 for 02-05 WRX. Extremely disappointing after I drove one.

09 WRX got 265.
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What's up guys my 04 wrx is getting on my last nerves, I'm sick of dumping money into this car, so I'm looking forward to purchasing a brz in the near future.

I'm wondering what should I look out for when buying a brz?

What year to avoid? What to expect in terms of handling performance? What to look out for if I buy a used one?

Difference between premium and limited?

Thanks in advance guys.
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Thanks for all the answers guys, I feel more confident in buying one now!
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