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D_Thissen · 03-15-2017, 04:18 PM

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D_Thissen · 03-15-2017, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Lies. What about the tq dip?

A front pipe will fix that.

Cole · 03-15-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen

A front pipe will fix that.

Or a catback, it'll also make shifting smoother.

strat61caster · 03-15-2017, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen

'Though relatively low on torque, the FA20 is quick to rev and pulls the 2800-pound chassis around with no real flat spots in acceleration. ' - Motor trend 2011.

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Originally Posted by Cole

Lies. What about the tq dip?

MotorTrend journalists know how to shift, who woulda thunkit, put them on a track and there's no reason to let the revs fall below 4.8k rpm. If only the car came with an instruction manual for everyone that struggles with the concept.

At this point I'm so sick of hearing about this I wish they had just nerfed the torque below 4k rpm so people would just say 'it's got no grunt down low just like an S2000'

But nope, they just had to give us more torque from 2,500-3,200 rpm than the S2000 makes peak, those useless engineers.

Yardjass · 03-15-2017, 04:54 PM

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The problem arises when we don't know what was really said by a company rep as opposed to what was misquoted, edited, misunderstood or just plain made up by the writers. We see "quotes" that are used time and time again by sites and depending on the topic they are twisted to mean what the writer wants them too. This is why I always want to see an official statement for any "facts" that these site spew out. If there is no official statement to back them up then they are just not reliable enough to use.

I get what you're saying in general but I'm still failing how to see how four numbers get mis-quoted.

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They were off by 10%, if they even gave 2500lbs "at such a late stage in the games" since, the links that @strat61caster pulled up (cheers m8) all say 2700 or above, and they were from 2011? Maybe you could pull up some sources that prove your claim, the more official, the better of course?

But fuck, being 10% off an estimate, damn, the world is probably going to end. You've never told someone you were going to be 10 minutes, but then were actually 9 minutes or 11 minutes? That's the kind of difference we're talking about here.

Or I could just go off the article that I already posted that pre-dates all of the ones that strat did. There are ones out there far pre-dating it when the car wasn't even a mule yet and they're even more vague, with various degrees of credibility of course.

No, we're not talking about being 10 minutes late. If you fail to see the difference in this context that it isn't even worth discussing further with you. Automakers would kill to have the weight difference between what was quoted and what came to be in this particular case.

Yardjass · 03-15-2017, 04:56 PM

Anyway, sorry for the distraction. Let's talk about the new MR-2, which is probably going to be slow, mediocre, and made pointless by way of being priced higher than a Miata but not noticeably better. They should have based it off the real MR-2, not the Spyder.

Cole · 03-15-2017, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yardjass

Anyway, sorry for the distraction. Let's talk about the new MR-2, which is probably going to be slow, mediocre, and made pointless by way of being priced higher than a Miata but not noticeably better. They should have based it off the real MR-2, not the Spyder.

You mean to say the MR-2 that won't be made, right? Or maybe you're putting too much credence into what motoring.au says again.

strat61caster · 03-15-2017, 05:07 PM

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You mean to say the MR-2 that won't be made, right? Or maybe you're putting too much credence into what motoring.au says again.

No he's just making sure he can draft an angry response to how he was deceived by Toyota and this new entry level sports car isn't a mid-engined double-wishbone miracle with 11 lbs/hp like he was personally promised by some journalist nobody knows.

WolfpackS2k · 03-15-2017, 05:11 PM

I've got to be honest, that when I heard that the ND Miata being developed was going to be considerably lighter than the NC, and somewhere around 1000 kg, I didn't believe it would happen. My basis for this was that Toyota overshot the weight targets on the Twins. And if Toyota couldn't do it, how would a boutique (by comparison) automaker pull it off?

But my God they sure as hell did pull it off

Cole · 03-15-2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

No he's just making sure he can draft an angry response to how he was deceived by Toyota and this new entry level sports car isn't a mid-engined double-wishbone miracle with 11 lbs/hp like he was personally promised by some journalist nobody knows.

Why is the hood so long if the engine is in the trunk?

strat61caster · 03-15-2017, 05:24 PM

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Why is the hood so long if the engine is in the trunk?

AWD

Tcoat · 03-15-2017, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cole

Why is the hood so long if the engine is in the trunk?

SFR
Sport
Front engine
Rear wheel drive

Tcoat · 03-15-2017, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

AWD

Turboed.

Cole · 03-15-2017, 08:56 PM

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SFR
Sport
Front engine
Rear wheel drive

Idiot, that's the MR2 in the flesh. I read it on a website. Go back a few pages and look at the link.

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