clutch differences fr-s v Br-z - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MyNave · 02-10-2017, 12:51 AM

is there a difference between the clutch experience out of the factory in the twins?
I own a Fr-s 2013 w/ 21k miles and i just drove a 2013 br-z w/ 42k miles. coming from an fr-s into the br-z was like entering a whole new car when it came to the clutch. just reversing was completely different. when i reversed in his it felt like the car was adding gas even though i wasn't on the gas at all. his was insanely smooth and the clutch felt more forgiving. In my fr-s it feels like the clutch is more primitive, i guess. I still have trouble driving mine smoothly as i just got the car and am still learning, but when i drove his it felt like i had been driving a manual for years and could do no wrong.

anyways TL;DR is there a difference out of factory or is there something wrong with my clutch lol?

Ultramaroon · 02-10-2017, 12:56 AM

absolutely no difference. Except for some inconsequential doo-dads, they are literally the same car.

MyNave · 02-10-2017, 01:01 AM

that is what i thought but there was a huge difference between our clutches. could it just be the way the clutches are adjusted? it is possible he adjusted his clutch, or the previous owner did.

Ultramaroon · 02-10-2017, 01:17 AM

differences in wear, adjustment, mods...

Impureclient · 02-10-2017, 01:21 AM

Pretty sure the FR-S is a little faster and of course better looking, same clutch though.

EnoOnraefi · 02-10-2017, 01:24 AM

I don't have any experience with these clutches since I still don't have my new car yet... I have however read in several places on these forums that there is a clutch spring tht people like to take off to improve the clutch feel though.

Again I'm no expert but HERE is the thread explaining how to do it and everyone on that thread seems to sing this simple mod's praises. I'd at least wait for other more experienced guys advice before you jump in and do it, I just thought I'd give you a little bit of reading material to help you out.

humfrz · 02-10-2017, 01:55 AM

What @Ultramaroon said ....... plus the BRZ has almost twice the miles on it.

humfrz

theman233 · 02-10-2017, 04:34 AM

It's the same from the factory, but can be modified.

My car's clutch was modified by the previous owner, saying this because I've had two different people tell me it's different from stock. I want to drive someone's BRZ/FR-S and feel just how different it is, and which I prefer, haha.

Only one of the people had the same car and they said it felt like a shorter travel distance, and that it was different, but they liked it.

Hopefully someone I meet lets me drive their car...

I will look to see if I still have the spring next time I remember about this

8RZ · 02-10-2017, 07:53 AM

Because Subaru master race.

kakacarrotcake · 02-10-2017, 12:18 PM

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

humfrz · 02-10-2017, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakacarrotcake

Some people remove their clutch helper spring resulting in a very different feel from stock. Could be that?

I seem to recall that is what @EnoOnraefi was getten at ......

Pay attention, kakacarrotcake ......

humfrz

kakacarrotcake · 02-10-2017, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz

I seem to recall that is what @EnoOnraefi was getten at ......

Pay attention, kakacarrotcake ......

humfrz

Fixed!

humfrz · 02-10-2017, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakacarrotcake

Fixed!

You're a good sport .....

humfrz

mav1178 · 02-10-2017, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyNave

is there a difference between the clutch experience out of the factory in the twins?

Yes.

The difference is the part number and the box is different as well.

http://parts.subaru.com/a/Subaru_201...10-100-01.html

http://parts.olathetoyota.com/auto-p...-flywheel-scat

Although the drastic difference in price on the clutch disk makes you wonder who is shafting who...

02-10-2017, 12:51 AM	#1
MyNave Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2013 stock blue Location: lubbock Posts: 37 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	clutch differences fr-s v Br-z is there a difference between the clutch experience out of the factory in the twins? I own a Fr-s 2013 w/ 21k miles and i just drove a 2013 br-z w/ 42k miles. coming from an fr-s into the br-z was like entering a whole new car when it came to the clutch. just reversing was completely different. when i reversed in his it felt like the car was adding gas even though i wasn't on the gas at all. his was insanely smooth and the clutch felt more forgiving. In my fr-s it feels like the clutch is more primitive, i guess. I still have trouble driving mine smoothly as i just got the car and am still learning, but when i drove his it felt like i had been driving a manual for years and could do no wrong. anyways TL;DR is there a difference out of factory or is there something wrong with my clutch lol?

02-10-2017, 12:56 AM	#2
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,394 Thanks: 53,054 Thanked 37,230 Times in 19,309 Posts Mentioned: 1118 Post(s)	absolutely no difference. Except for some inconsequential doo-dads, they are literally the same car. __________________ service manuals

02-10-2017, 01:17 AM	#4
Ultramaroon not playing cards Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: a 13 e8h frs Location: vantucky, wa Posts: 32,394 Thanks: 53,054 Thanked 37,230 Times in 19,309 Posts Mentioned: 1118 Post(s)	differences in wear, adjustment, mods... __________________ service manuals

02-10-2017, 07:53 AM	#9
8RZ The Gunshine State Join Date: Aug 2016 Drives: '14 BRZ Limited Location: Florida Posts: 1,463 Thanks: 631 Thanked 1,163 Times in 587 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s)	Because Subaru master race. __________________ Current DD: M235i

02-10-2017, 12:18 PM	#10
kakacarrotcake Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Drives: Man Location: https://t.me/pump_upp Posts: 168 Thanks: 201 Thanked 125 Times in 80 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Last edited by kakacarrotcake; 02-10-2017 at 12:48 PM. Reason: Not reading previous comments.

02-10-2017, 01:01 AM	#3
MyNave Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2013 stock blue Location: lubbock Posts: 37 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	that is what i thought but there was a huge difference between our clutches. could it just be the way the clutches are adjusted? it is possible he adjusted his clutch, or the previous owner did.

02-10-2017, 01:21 AM	#5
Impureclient Banned Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: NPR, Florida Posts: 2,404 Thanks: 1,802 Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts Mentioned: 25 Post(s)	Pretty sure the FR-S is a little faster and of course better looking, same clutch though.

02-10-2017, 01:24 AM	#6
EnoOnraefi Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: MY17 Asphalt 86 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 79 Thanks: 6 Thanked 43 Times in 26 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	I don't have any experience with these clutches since I still don't have my new car yet... I have however read in several places on these forums that there is a clutch spring tht people like to take off to improve the clutch feel though. Again I'm no expert but HERE is the thread explaining how to do it and everyone on that thread seems to sing this simple mod's praises. I'd at least wait for other more experienced guys advice before you jump in and do it, I just thought I'd give you a little bit of reading material to help you out.

02-10-2017, 01:55 AM	#7
humfrz Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 30,436 Thanks: 29,833 Thanked 32,866 Times in 16,849 Posts Mentioned: 717 Post(s)	What @Ultramaroon said ....... plus the BRZ has almost twice the miles on it. humfrz

02-10-2017, 04:34 AM	#8
theman233 Member Join Date: May 2016 Drives: 2013 subaru brz Location: indiana Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	It's the same from the factory, but can be modified. My car's clutch was modified by the previous owner, saying this because I've had two different people tell me it's different from stock. I want to drive someone's BRZ/FR-S and feel just how different it is, and which I prefer, haha. Only one of the people had the same car and they said it felt like a shorter travel distance, and that it was different, but they liked it. Hopefully someone I meet lets me drive their car... I will look to see if I still have the spring next time I remember about this

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