Should I go AT or MT?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by RasecLOG

you're sadly dead wrong

Wow, that's really wrong.

I've only seen that level of wrong a couple times in my life.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Wise

AUTO
CONS
- Can't do a sweet burnout
- Can't heel toe or clutch kick

Really all that matters.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Wise

MANUAL

CONS
- High incline hill starts
- Stop start bumper to bumper traffic can be tedious
- Worse fuel economy
- More temptation to drive like a hoon

CONS
- High incline hill starts - Pull your ebrake and drive like normal
- Stop start bumper to bumper traffic can be tedious - I like stuck in traffic listening music and think about life.
- Worse fuel economy - I am using E85, dont give a sh..t
- More temptation to drive like a hoon - I listen to my heart when I rev my rpm high, you are dam right XD

Just trolling in this post XD

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You are not the "few". There are just as many autos as manuals (in North America). Hell even this forum has more than people would guess.

Originally Posted by RasecLOG

I'll be back with some statistics, you're sadly dead wrong about that one

Here's one for you.

Of the 69 people that registered on this forum as one of the "First 86" winners, 18 were autos.

So, even out of the folks that were enthusiasts enough to register to win the car, follow through on it, and then seek out a forum to talk about the car in the very early stages, 26% of us ordered automatics.

That was after the opportunity to drive them in Long Beach when we could have changed our minds. I had the opportunity to drive them both back to back.

As I recall more people changed their color at this last opportunity than changed transmission type after driving.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Really all that matters.

I have managed do some pretty sweet chirps but "burnout" may be a stretch.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I have managed do some pretty sweet chirps but "burnout" may be a stretch.

Hence your indifference to transmissions. It's no muscle car but done properly with stock tires it'll draw some nice elevens.

...I've heard.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hence your indifference to transmissions. It's no muscle car but done properly with stock tires it'll draw some nice elevens.

...I've heard.

Whooooa wait a second here. "indifference"? I personally would never buy a car with an auto ever again if I can avoid it. My defence of, and support for, the auto AT in this car is based on the fact that it is not your normal everyday AT but something special that does the job well. I am not indifferent at all I just totally understand how some could prefer and enjoy the AT for the pluses it has and not just off hand rule it out 'cuz sports car.

And doing elevens is not "burning out". In fact if you burn out on launch with these you will be lucky to get 12s.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Whooooa wait a second here. "indifference"? I personally would never buy a car with an auto ever again if I can avoid it. My defence of, and support for, the auto AT in this car is based on the fact that it is not your normal everyday AT but something special that does the job well. I am not indifferent at all I just totally understand how some could prefer and enjoy the AT for the pluses it has and not just off hand rule it out 'cuz sports car.

And doing elevens is not "burning out". In fact if you burn out on launch with these you will be lucky to get 12s.

Haha... see? Sucks to have your shit twisted, don't it?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Haha... see? Sucks to have your shit twisted, don't it?

I love twisted shit!

[ysu]

Err...can I just interject here a bit?

Not quite correct cons for A/T:

Originally Posted by Wise

- Less control over engine/revs

You've pretty much full control over it when you want to, using the paddles (move the shifter sideways and apart from 1st gear start, it's like any other gear change except you get rev matching added)

Originally Posted by Wise

- Can't do a sweet burnout

Of course you can.

Procedure:
- Get rid of the TC (5s button press)
- Press the brake hard
- Step on the throttle

The revs will start rising. The rears will start spinning somewhere slightly over 2k rpm.

Burnout achieved.

Having stock tyres helps, sticky ones are harder to get spinning, and keep spinning.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ysu

Of course you can.

Procedure:
- Get rid of the TC (5s button press)
- Press the brake hard,
- step on the throttle

The revs will start rising. The rears will start spinning somewhere slightly over 2k rpm.

Burnout achieved.

Having stock tyres helps, sticky ones are harder to get spinning.

This is not a sweet burnout. It's just a lame burnout.

There's no substitute for the third pedal when it comes to doing a sweet burnout.

[Teseo]

Try this

[ysu]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

This is not a sweet burnout. It's just a lame burnout.

There's no substitute for the third pedal when it comes to doing a sweet burnout.

Apologies, I did not know that you've categorised your burnouts.
To me it's spinning tyres, noise + burned rubber = burnout.

Do you think you're a bit of a burnout snob?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ysu

Do you think you're a bit of a burnout snob?

I prefer "burnout connoisseur."