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Old 01-11-2017, 04:40 PM   #225
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Old 01-11-2017, 05:14 PM   #227
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I will be wearing one within the week.

Well done, BTW, shifting from curbs back to transmissions so smoothly.
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:59 PM   #228
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Get the manual, you won't break it, and it's the best way to have the car and get the most out of it. You'll be spoiled because it has one of the best shifters out there right now, but the clutch does leave some things to be desired. Still, easy car to learn on, and once you k ow how to drive a manual (and a manual sports car, at that) you can drive anything.

Unless you have a trick left knee, don't let traffic jams dissuade you. Given the choice, go manual.
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would love to know the whole story behind this!
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I'm still trying to figure out where the person that got ran over came from .....was he in the car and got thrown out ? Or on the car and got thrown off? Or in the fire and got picked up and drug, then driven over?

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He is riding on the hood going into the fire. Obviously a stunt show which is why nobody really reacts.
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How the fuck does nobody react to a dude getting run over? Stunt show or not that really shouldnt happrn


My take is that it was a stunt gone wrong with unanticipated consequences.

1. Stunt rider is supposed to ride through some breakaway device

2. They never practiced or even discussed a contingency plan.

3. Somehow the flaming wall fails and sticks to the hood.

4. Driver panics, lays hard on the brakes.

5. Sees the stunt guy lose grip.

6. Thinks "Oh, shit!" and makes the critical bad decision to let go of the brakes.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:30 PM   #231
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MANUAL
PROS
- More fun during spirited driving, can make boring driving more interesting.
- More control over the engine/revs
- Get respect from strangers on the internet
- You can pretend you're Takumi/Dominic Torretto
- You can roll start if the battery is dead and you don't have cables
- Cheaper to buy, better resale value (For this car anyhow).

CONS
- High incline hill starts
- Stop start bumper to bumper traffic can be tedious
- Worse fuel economy
- More temptation to drive like a hoon


AUTO
PROS
- Anyone can drive it. This is a big one, because some day you're going to be in bed on a cold morning and your car is going to be blocking someone in your family in the driveway. If that person can't drive manual then you're in for an ordeal.
- You can drive and eat at the same time much more easily.
- Better gas mileage
- Easier to launch
- Easier for traffic commute

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- Less control over engine/revs
- People on the internet will hurt your feelings.
- More expensive
- Heavier usually
- Can't roll start
- Can't do a sweet burnout
- Can't heel toe or clutch kick
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I'm one of the few who do have an AT; honestly you can't go wrong with either one. Sure, manual makes you more engaged in your driving, but there's literally no difference between AT and MT performance wise. As a matter of fact, you shift faster using the paddle shifters on an AT than most people can driving manual. The point of MT is to control which gears you are in, but the AT on the 86 lets you do the same in M mode and with the paddle shifters. Like someone said before, the AT in the 86 is not the average piece of shit AT u see on the average car. Paddle shifters on this car are very responsive and if you ever feel like chilling or if you're stuck in traffic, put it back in Drive.


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Old 01-11-2017, 08:06 PM   #233
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Might just be me but I always imagined the AT more time attack focused and the MT more drift focused

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I'm one of the few who do have an AT; honestly you can't go wrong with either one. Sure, manual makes you more engaged in your driving, but there's literally no difference between AT and MT performance wise. As a matter of fact, you shift faster using the paddle shifters on an AT than most people can driving manual. The point of MT is to control which gears you are in, but the AT on the 86 lets you do the same in M mode and with the paddle shifters. Like someone said before, the AT in the 86 is not the average piece of shit AT u see on the average car. Paddle shifters on this car are very responsive and if you ever feel like chilling or if you're stuck in traffic, put it back in Drive.


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You are not the "few". There are just as many autos as manuals (in North America). Hell even this forum has more than people would guess.
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You are not the "few". There are just as many autos as manuals (in North America). Hell even this forum has more than people would guess.


I'll be back with some statistics, you're sadly dead wrong about that one


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My take is that it was a stunt gone wrong with unanticipated consequences.

1. Stunt rider is supposed to ride through some breakaway device

2. They never practiced or even discussed a contingency plan.

3. Somehow the flaming wall fails and sticks to the hood.

4. Driver panics, lays hard on the brakes.

5. Sees the stunt guy lose grip.

6. Thinks "Oh, shit!" and makes the critical bad decision to let go of the brakes.
That was exactly my read on it. That is why I wanted to know the whole story. At least the dude got up and ran away.
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Be interested to see some hard numbers. My statement came right from a knowledgeable sales manager at Scion but he did have any actual numbers for me.
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Well done, BTW, shifting from curbs back to transmissions so smoothly.
Almost like it was done automatically.
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