Should I go AT or MT?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

People here tend to talk like they are driving their cars balls out 100% of the time when the fact of the matter is if they are driving around a city or doing long highway runs the opportunities to use the advantages of the MT can be rare.

Totally disagree. I have fun just knowing I'm driving a manual 100% of the time.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Totally disagree. I have fun just knowing I'm driving a manual 100% of the time.

And everybody else should have fun because they know they are? The guys with autos can't possibly have fun since they have no clutch pedal?

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Totally disagree. I have fun just knowing I'm driving a manual 100% of the time.

Not everyone is the same. I have an AT and an MT car to choose from. Both fun to drive in different ways. But I find myself going "I don't feel like shifting while driving through town running errands" more than "Damn, I wish I had a clutch right now" and I have only owned MT from when I got my license til I bought my FRS in 2012. That is why a bunch of people on a forum cannot tell OP what choice will be right for him.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And everybody else should have fun because they know they are? The guys with autos can't possibly have fun since they have no clutch pedal?

Oh, bullshit. You know me better than that.

You said the MT can't be enjoyed in the city or long boring drives. I'm saying I do. I'm saying I'm perfectly in touch with my inner child who gets a giggle out of *oops* on the clutch every once in a while across a painted crosswalk.

I'm saying if OP is MT-curious the AT will always remind him of it. That's all.

[new2subaru]

Personally, I think everyone should learn to drive MT. It gives you a better sense of how the car operates and how to control it.

Whether you buy a MT or AT 86 is up to you in the end, but do yourself a favour and drive both. No regrets.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

]People here tend to talk like they are driving their cars balls out 100% of the time when the fact of the matter is if they are driving around a city or doing long highway runs the opportunities to use the advantages of the MT can be rare.

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Oh, bullshit. You know me better than that.

You said the MT can't be enjoyed in the city or long boring drives. I'm saying I do. I'm saying I'm perfectly in touch with my inner child who gets a giggle out of *oops* on the clutch every once in a while across a painted crosswalk.

I'm saying if OP is MT-curious the AT will always remind him of it. That's all.

I didn't say it can't be enjoyed I said people talk like they are driving it like a race car every second when that is not possible (or at least not reasonable). The giggle that you get when you do get to falls cleanly into my closing statement. I am about the same which is why I can understand why some people would want an auto because they know the opportunities may be rare and the convenience outweighs the fun had in popping the clutch every once in a while.
If I was smart instead of a stubborn old throwback I would have bought an AT because the driving I do leaves little opportunity to truly use the MT to it's advantage.

[ToySub1946]

Wow, so many chimed in on this one.

The manual transmission will be worth more money at trade in time. My local dealer has a leftover 2016 FRS with auto trans...and it just sits there on their lot.

I am age 70. Drive a manual FRS.
Learned to drive a stick shift at age 9. My father showed me what to do (the shift pattern) on a piece of paper...then gave me the keys...to drive the car alone...whilst he watched from a distance. I popped the clutch and stalled the engine on lst try. Second try, gave the engine more gas before popping the clutch.
All good to go after that.

For me, an auto trans would make my driving experience just too boring...nothing to do.

[gravitylover]

I love my MT, been driving MT on and off for 35 years and have done the bulk of the million or so miles I've done in MT vehicles. I think that the next fun car I get will probably be an AT because they've gotten so good unless it's a classic because the old autos mostly sucked. If I was to get this car again I actually think I'd get the AT.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I didn't say it can't be enjoyed I said people talk like they are driving it like a race car every second when that is not possible (or at least not reasonable). The giggle that you get when you do get to falls cleanly into my closing statement. I am about the same which is why I can understand why some people would want an auto because they know the opportunities may be rare and the convenience outweighs the fun had in popping the clutch every once in a while.
If I was smart instead of a stubborn old throwback I would have bought an AT because the driving I do leaves little opportunity to truly use the MT to it's advantage.

I'm done with being magnanimous on the subject because I feel it's disingenuous.

You are smart. Don't deny your fun side. There is nothing rational about this car and you bought the manual to peel out plain and simple, not because you're a stubborn old throwback. Just admit it.

[daiheadjai]

Late to the party, but here are my thoughts: this is one of the easier MT cars to learn to drive on, and also very satisfying because the shifter (while not the best in the world) is very good.
MT driving is only as satisfying as the quality of the shifter.
For reference, I learned on a 97 Corolla, and it's a wonder that I didn't just give up in disgust (I learned it to drive the IS300 manual at my summer job dealership).

If you want to learn MT, this is a good choice.

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I'm done with being magnanimous on the subject because I feel it's disingenuous.

You are smart. Don't deny your fun side. There is nothing rational about this car and you bought the manual to peel out plain and simple, not because you're a stubborn old throwback. Just admit it.

I have owned about 30 cars over the years. Three of them were autos. Two of those were the most "fun" cars I owned. Equating MT with fun does not apply to everybody. There can be something rational about all cars and if somebody choses an AT they probably did so for rational reasons. Yep, I bought a MT because I like MTs but I do not for one second that every other person buying these cars should want a MT. The autos in these are great and can be every bit as engaging as the MT if you want to shift manually.

[FR-Sky]

I have 2 car, 1 AT and 1 MT.
The AT is sitting in parking lot eating dust.
I drive the MT every single day no matter what.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FR-Sky

I have 2 car, 1 AT and 1 MT.
The AT is sitting in parking lot eating dust.
I drive the MT every single day no matter what.

Are they both FRS's? If not then it is hardly a fair statement now is it.

[FR-Sky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Are they both FRS's? If not then it is hardly a fair statement now is it.

No, they are not