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Old 12-22-2016, 01:20 PM   #3851
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What other mods are on your car?

Can you post a few pics of your engine bay?
The only other mod i have is the HKS spec-L catback.
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Old 12-22-2016, 01:27 PM   #3852
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Can you post a few pics of your engine bay?
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Makes sense I guess. There's probably not a ton of profit in making the part compared to the R&D time that goes into it, and definitely appreciate that they offer a C38 specific pulley for bigger power numbers, as I'd like to get there someday.

I've been leaning towards the JRSC C38 kit over the Edelbrock kit. Hoping to get some more advice before I take the plunge.

Right now the car has stock header/cats and an Invidia N1 catback. I'd like to leave the cats intact for as long as possible as I build the car.

I'd like to shoot for building the powertrain in 3 stages:
Step 1. Base supercharger kit w/ CARB tune (~280 whp according to JRSC)
Step 2. Mods that can bump me up to ~320-330 whp (so I don't have to build the engine). I'm OK with upgrading the clutch if necessary
Step 3. Build the motor and push it to 400+ whp

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1. To get to Step 2, what would be the best choice of mods?
2. Can I do a flex fuel kit with the base SC kit with no other supporting mods (like injectors/fuel pump)? I know I'd need a new tune, obviously.
3. If I went with the standard HBP (not the RS pulley) and a C38, it sounds like (from my reading of the forums) that I would need better fuel (93 or E85). In conjunction with this, I believe I would also need bigger injectors/fuel pump. Is this correct? What power level would this put me at, and would I still be at a safe power level for the stock internals (~330 whp or less?)
4. I've never built an engine before, and I'm not going to that extreme until a few years from now... but ballpark figures here... how much should I expect to pay to build the engine to hold ~400 whp? I got a quote from a local shop for $8800 installed, but that was for a full race engine - I am sure there are cheaper options out there, but for now I'm just trying to get an idea for what I'm getting myself into .
Bumping this post, hoping someone can chime in. I just finished reading all 276 pages of this thread, and now definitely feel more educated.

With regards to e85 or HBP, seems as though I will definitely need to upgrade the injectors and fuel pump. This answers #2 and #3 above.

My biggest hesitation is deciding between c30 and c38... The biggest reason I am leaning towards the c38 is to leave the door open for big power down the road. But, if I only ever run the CARB tube or a flex fuel and/or HBP setup, would I ever regret the c38? In other words, when does going for the c38 pay off?
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Bumping this post, hoping someone can chime in. I just finished reading all 276 pages of this thread, and now definitely feel more educated.

With regards to e85 or HBP, seems as though I will definitely need to upgrade the injectors and fuel pump. This answers #2 and #3 above.

My biggest hesitation is deciding between c30 and c38... The biggest reason I am leaning towards the c38 is to leave the door open for big power down the road. But, if I only ever run the CARB tube or a flex fuel and/or HBP setup, would I ever regret the c38? In other words, when does going for the c38 pay off?
Just go C38. It will run fine and perfect in CARB trim. If you decide you want to add more boost, in the future you are able to run the High Boost Pulley or even the RS upgrade. The $100 difference is a no brainer.
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Thanks. I saw a dyno somewhere of a c30 vs c38 and they were close. But I think the c38 made a tad bit less power down low and more up top.

Edit: I think I was remembering the first dyno here. Not sure if it's the CARB tune or not, but it seems the c38 suffers on the low end but does better at high RPM. It seems it is superior to the C30 once the HBP and flex fuel are added to the mix.

http://blog.vittuned.com/jackson-rac...ft-86-fr-sbrz/

Let's say I don't do the HBP though... Would the c38 still outshine the c30? Would I need to upgrade the internals and clutch if I ran

1. C38 + flex fuel + injectors + fuel pump
2. C38 + flex fuel + injectors + fuel pump + HBP

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I was running flex fuel with a c30, and I snapped a rod. Catastrophic.Engine.Destruction. I will now have to have an engine built, as I was on the ragged edge of what was safe for this engine with stock internals. Keep this in mind when making your decisions. A c38 will provide head room, but to what end? As it turns out, I will be upgrading to a c38 so I can run high rpm. Thought my experience might be useful to you. Good luck!

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Bumping this post, hoping someone can chime in. I just finished reading all 276 pages of this thread, and now definitely feel more educated.

With regards to e85 or HBP, seems as though I will definitely need to upgrade the injectors and fuel pump. This answers #2 and #3 above.

My biggest hesitation is deciding between c30 and c38... The biggest reason I am leaning towards the c38 is to leave the door open for big power down the road. But, if I only ever run the CARB tube or a flex fuel and/or HBP setup, would I ever regret the c38? In other words, when does going for the c38 pay off?
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Oil cooler vs. Radiator with cooler

I'm sure it's been asked and answered, but... which is the best route to go, JR Radiator with oil cooler, or just the oil cooler alone? Not concerned with the extra $$, just want the best option. Running the JRSC C-30, flex fuel kit, Ace 350 Header and full exhaust.

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I'm sure it's been asked and answered, but... which is the best route to go, JR Radiator with oil cooler, or just the oil cooler alone? Not concerned with the extra $$, just want the best option. Running the JRSC C-30, flex fuel kit, Ace 350 Header and full exhaust.

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Would also like some clarification for the use cases for both.

Here's where it came up before in this thread

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...il#post2644696

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