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Old 12-27-2016, 01:22 PM   #7687
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Noticing a reasonably-strong smell of burning rubber/plastic/something-funky after hard-driving. It smells like a mixture between rubber and something metallic. It doesn't smell like clutch as far as I can tell, and i've looked under the hood. Can't see anything melting.

Could it be brakes? Anyone else experience funky smells only occurring after hard runs? I can usually only smell it when getting out of car or with the windows open. With windows closed it is un-discernible in cabin.
Engine breather venting to atmosphere. Recirculate or run through catch can.
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Old 12-27-2016, 01:25 PM   #7688
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I've had a real s***storm of a week installing all of this once. Don't even get me started on the trouble I had with the dumb aftermarket crank pulley. Never even considering one of those again.
That crank pulley is a bitch to break, isn't it? Took me and a buddy an hour several weeks ago. Hahah
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:11 PM   #7689
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Moto Mike is doing my tuning via email since I live in Dallas. He doesn't seem able or willing to answer my questions within a week of me asking them, unless I ask him after ~9pm, oddly. I don't know how to access the E85 purge tune, and I've never seen instructions on how to install the flex fuel kit properly. Which is relevant because the car does not start so I had it towed to a shop this morning.

I've had a real s***storm of a week installing all of this once. Don't even get me started on the trouble I had with the dumb aftermarket crank pulley. Never even considering one of those again.
It doesn't list it on the product page when you purchase the tune -- but its important to know that remote tuning takes a while. It's typical to go 2 or 3 weeks with no response at times. This is the reality of the beast with any remote tuner who has a high workload. It isn't that mike isn't interested in helping -- its that he has bookings every day for shop-tunes, and works on remote tunes in other available time. Given that its the holidays, i'd expect a larger delay.
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:12 PM   #7690
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Engine breather venting to atmosphere. Recirculate or run through catch can.
As far as I know, i'm not venting anything to atmosphere. Unless the SC itself vents to atmosphere on its own. I'm running all engine breathers back into intake, or into back of SC.
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It doesn't list it on the product page when you purchase the tune -- but its important to know that remote tuning takes a while. It's typical to go 2 or 3 weeks with no response at times. This is the reality of the beast with any remote tuner who has a high workload. It isn't that mike isn't interested in helping -- its that he has bookings every day for shop-tunes, and works on remote tunes in other available time. Given that its the holidays, i'd expect a larger delay.
This is NOT typical of a quality tuner. Both Moto-Mike at Delicious Tuning have always got back to me within 48 hours or so at the most. If your tuner is taking that long, find a new tuner.
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:27 PM   #7692
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This is NOT typical of a quality tuner. Both Moto-Mike at Delicious Tuning have always got back to me within 48 hours or so at the most. If your tuner is taking that long, find a new tuner.
But my tuner is Moto Mike.
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Hey guys, wanted to describe my situation more and see if anyone knows any remaining options I might have.

I installed the Sprintex 210 on my car last week, along with the Moto East Flex Fuel kit and 3" Perrin Big MAF CAI. The car was tuned with Moto East and I installed the ECUTek tune before starting it the 4 or 5 times last week. I also did a Perrin lightweight crank pulley, which I had problems with aligning correctly. Each time I started the car with the perrin pulley on, it had a decent wobble to it, even though I did align the pin. The car was extremely close to empty at that point. I left town for Christmas and there the car sat.

Got back last night, installed the stock crank pulley, and everything seemed to align properly, but the car wouldn't start. It cranks but does not turn over. I thought this was because it was out of fuel, so I put some E85 in it. I made sure the fuel pump primed a few times, power to the fuel pump was reconnected, and the fuel gauge was showing half a tank or so. Car still won't start. Disconnected the fuel lines right behind the injectors, both had some E85 in it. Still no start. Moto East saying it can't be the tune. I tend to agree with them not because I know a thing about tuning, but because it started last week with the tune on it.

Two local shops (Dallas) won't work on it, so it's being towed to a third who said they would.

If this shop can't help me, I truly don't know what to do aside from removing the flex fuel kit, trying again, then removing the blower, and trying again. After that it'd go to the dealer.

Anyone have any ideas?
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Old 12-27-2016, 07:18 PM   #7694
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This is NOT typical of a quality tuner. Both Moto-Mike at Delicious Tuning have always got back to me within 48 hours or so at the most. If your tuner is taking that long, find a new tuner.
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Anyone have any ideas?
Double check your MAF wiring? It does do a sketchy dance through the belts. Maybe it got obliterated at some point. Maybe plugs? Although that doesn't seem likely.
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:16 AM   #7696
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Would anyone be interested in a full used 210 intercooled kit? I'm thinking about returning my car to stock. Blower has about 15k on it, only had stock pulley and oil always checked zero issues whatsoever can even come see it running on my car before I take it off. Message me for details


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Old 12-28-2016, 03:50 AM   #7697
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But my tuner is Moto Mike.
I haven't dealt with mike for a tune in a couple years, been running delicious full time. Whenever I dealt with him in the past though he was always absurdly quick to respond. He'd even reach back out to me if he asked me for more logs and hadn't received them within a day or two. Unless something has changed, it sounds like there could be some miscommunication. There is no way Mike should be taking weeks to get back to you. I'd give him a call to address your concerns and find out what needs to be done to get a timely response.
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I haven't dealt with mike for a tune in a couple years, been running delicious full time. Whenever I dealt with him in the past though he was always absurdly quick to respond. He'd even reach back out to me if he asked me for more logs and hadn't received them within a day or two. Unless something has changed, it sounds like there could be some miscommunication. There is no way Mike should be taking weeks to get back to you. I'd give him a call to address your concerns and find out what needs to be done to get a timely response.
Have a few times man. It's only taken about one week a few times and keep in mind this was pre-install. It's definitely not a priority for him. Can't blame him while the car isn't even running however. I'm not complaining about Mike or Moto East in the slightest.
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But my tuner is Moto Mike.
As is mine. Mike's volume of work goes up and down at times. Mike did get me squared away, but also let me know what to expect in terms of response time. 48 hours might be practical when there isn't much going on, but I could understand a week or more during peak times.

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80701
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Does Mike still offer free revisions/updates? Perhaps that's why Delicious is much quicker to respond. There's a small fee for adjustments (after your initial tune is dialed in), but it seems to cut back on the frivolous requests and allow him to respond more quickly.
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