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Old 12-03-2016, 12:23 PM   #15
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That sucks, but glad no one else got hit.
If it was me I would haggle a bit more for the cars value. Oddly insurance companies go for the lowest payout. Simply disagreeing the first offer will get you a bit more in the right ballpark price wise.

As far as what to do afterwards, it's up to you. Yes it can be fixed. But you'll always know it was wrecked. That would eventuality hurt resale. the other options is to go car shopping again. Maybe it's time for a change or to hunt down another 86.
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:25 PM   #16
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Damn dude, I had a similar accident the Friday night after Thanksgiving too, but mine wasn't quite as bad. Total cost of repairs is around $9k.

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Old 12-03-2016, 01:25 PM   #17
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I would rather total it, cus u never know what problem u got later on.
You can get a used low mile 2013-2015 clean frs/brz for that money you got.
Yup, I agree with that!
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:26 PM   #18
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I would rather total it, cus u never know what problem u got later on.
You can get a used low mile 2013-2015 clean frs/brz for that money you got.


Its just a stupid airbag and body work you have to replace 🙄🙄🙄🙄its not like the engine is gonna blow up

If you got the body shop connections and resources buy that baby back. Screw resale value its not like our cars are Tacoma, 4Runner resale values for goodness sakes.


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Old 12-03-2016, 01:28 PM   #19
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As others have said, take the 22k. You can buy a really nice, clean used FRS/BRZ for around 19k and put down 3k for a super cheap monthly payment, or just pocket the difference, or spend the difference personalizing your new car to match you.


Repairing cars with this much damage can sometimes give them strange quirks that will be there forever... Not worth the risk IMO
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:31 PM   #20
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Too bad.

I suggest you let it go.

Get another car.

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Old 12-03-2016, 01:34 PM   #21
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Let insurance total it and move on.
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Old 12-03-2016, 03:29 PM   #22
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Side airbag deployed. Expensive there as well. $22K is a good pay off for a 14. Buy a new one.
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Wow, that damage is nothing. I was expecting a ball of tinfoil.
I too was surprised but saw that the side curtain had deployed. Hesitated answering yesterday because of my relative lack of experience with these things.

I guess what they say about airbags is really true. Once one blows, the car is a goner. Dunno why, though.

Really glad you're ok, OP. Lessons learned.
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I too was surprised but saw that the side curtain had deployed. Hesitated answering yesterday because of my relative lack of experience with these things.

I guess what they say about airbags is really true. Once one blows, the car is a goner. Dunno why, though.

Really glad you're ok, OP. Lessons learned.
Two reasons cars are usually done when airbags deploy.

1) The airbag and complete sensor array/control module for the whole car has to be replaced. It isn't a matter of hooking up a new airbag and good to go. That is an expensive operation when done through a garage or shop.

2) If hit hard enough to deploy airbags (they don't go off with a love tap) then there is usually enough other damage to push the car over the repair vs value limit.

Now, of course neither of these are big factors when buying a salvage car and doing it yourself but of course insurance companies are not doing it themselves so it just makes economic sense.
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Here's how it is clever boy.

Excuse - aquaplaning

Reason- travelling to fast for the conditions, and I suspect a bit of inexperience.

From both of you.
Agree that travelling too fast for the conditions can be an issue however poor road upkeep leading to piss poor water shedding can be contributing factors too..
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I think you're getting a very good value for the totaled car. Unfortunately with hits like these you never know what's been bent and tweaked, and when cars get bent they're never the same no matter how well you straighten them out. It sucks, but unless you're very emotionally attached, best to let it go and try to get into another one lightly used or something else entirely. They made these cars about as light as they could, and in doing so made something that doesn't recover well from impacts.
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Thanks for the replies everyone! Anyone have an opinion on the rear differential and whether or not it's actually damaged? I may get it checked out by a shop. It seems like the overwhelming opinion is to not look back and get a new car though, so I'm looking at that path. I want push-button start and prefer black or grey, so my options near me are a 2016 Premium 8k miles for $24k or a 2013 Limited 40k miles for $19k-- weighing the tradeoffs now.

Also, I stopped by the dealer listing the 2016 for $24.9k and tried using KBB to negotiate down to $22.6k, he showed me his screen and said "if I sell to you for $23.9k and enter "g" in this field I'll be only earning $50 profit" and he showed me the results. Anyone seen that trick before? He seemed too ready to show me his system and too ready to sell a $24k car at only $50 profit.

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Damn dude, I had a similar accident the Friday night after Thanksgiving too, but mine wasn't quite as bad. Total cost of repairs is around $9k.

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Whoa, crazy you had almost the exact same accident in the same car at the same time! The damage looks the same but your repair estimate is so much lower. Any idea why my car was quoted as needing a new differential while yours wasn't? Did your mechanic find anything? Similar damage to the rear wheel on both yours and mine.
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Thanks for the replies everyone! Anyone have an opinion on the rear differential and whether or not it's actually damaged? I may get it checked out by a shop. It seems like the overwhelming opinion is to not look back and get a new car though, so I'm looking at that path. I want push-button start and prefer black or grey, so my options near me are a 2016 Premium for $24k or a 2013 Limited for $19k-- weighing the tradeoffs now.



Whoa, crazy you had almost the exact same accident in the same car at the same time! The damage looks the same but your repair estimate is so much lower. Any idea why my car was quoted as needing a new differential while yours wasn't? Did your mechanic find anything? Similar damage to the rear wheel on both yours and mine.
Just a second let me take a look at your diff. HMMMMM ya it looks pretty bad.

How are we supposed to judge how badly your differential is damaged?
Not even sure why you are worried about it if the car is totaled. Are you actually considering just keeping and fixing it? You know the insurance company won't just give you money to fix it if written off right? The accident is now in their records so they will probably not even insure it again anyway.

What Reamer's situation is has zero relevance on yours no matter how similar the crash was or the damage looks.
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Whoa, crazy you had almost the exact same accident in the same car at the same time! The damage looks the same but your repair estimate is so much lower. Any idea why my car was quoted as needing a new differential while yours wasn't? Did your mechanic find anything? Similar damage to the rear wheel on both yours and mine.
No idea why yours needs a new diff, but there's no guarantee that mine doesn't. $9k is just the estimate so far but when they get everything repaired that they know about and when I get to drive it again we may find out that it needs a new diff. What a shame an excuse to get a 4.77 FD would be (it is an AT). Your car has some additional body work (possible indicator of more deeper issues) than mine as well. My right rear quarter panel is the only part that needs repaired, whereas your door, fender, and front bumper also need to be repaired/replaced.

@Tcoat 's statement about damage being different than appearance is accurate.

How much do you still owe on the car? Or was it paid off? We're assuming you have $22k to play with, but the bank will get paid first.

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