how bad is the clutch?

[Bonburner]

I personally wish it was a tad bit heavier, its almost too light.
My experience with clutches is very limited so I'm used to it, but I still wish it was a little heavier.

[syelenik]

Originally Posted by Khyron686

Follow the DIY and adjust the height yourself! It's not a warranty issue that Subaru is going to care about. You are turning a bolt to adjust travel, not removing/adding plates or cutting things. It's MEANT TO BE DONE. You can also put it back just as easily.

I would agree with you it shouldn't be a warranty issue, but I have been down the path already. I went in and complained it was too high and they claimed normal and Subaru claimed normal. Which is to cover their behind for lemon law reasons. And because this manufacturer they likes the clutch release high. I stated to Subaru that I would adjust it if they thought it was normal and Fuji responded on your own if you do, which I don't believe would be enforceable, but I am just telling you what I got. So I appealed to the shop forman and he discussed with Subaru/Fuji and he adjusted it to the "lower end of the specification range".

I fully agree with you you should be able to adjust it, their argument is that if you adjust it to less than a ~4.2 to ~4.4 range, or whatever it is, I don't have it in front of me now, then you are adjusting it out of spec. I think its total bull, as long as you have the free play at the top and it engages above the floor so that you know its fully disengaged and there is no reverse or first grinding at a stand still there is no issue. The shop foreman who is tops did say beign at the fringe of the range like that may not matter in summer, but might not fully disengage in cold weather. Don't know the fluid dyanmics well enought to know about that

Bottom line is it shouldn't be so high and mine is adjusted and working like a champ now.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by FakeWhiteMan

I was in my 4 week old 2012 Jeep Wrangler. It had just started to rain and I saw a deer down the road. No big deal, I'll just change lanes and slow down a little in case he does jump out in front of me. Well as soon as I tapped the brakes the rear end just slid out. I counter steered but it just went off road. Once your off the road at 60+ mph your brakes don't do much. About 10 feet off the road was a big tree, and I hit it head on.

You can see pics here

http://www.hvfd6.org/apps/public/new...m?News_ID=1020

Bottom line is I'm lucky to be alive, I've known peole to hit softer things slower and die...

How did it slide out so suddenly? Was there was a brake bias failure or something?

[My1FastFRS]

I'm completely happy with the clutch. Feels just fine to me.

[FakeWhiteMan]

Originally Posted by Bristecom

How did it slide out so suddenly? Was there was a brake bias failure or something?

That and bad weight distribution. Apparently it, like a lot of stuff, is a Jeep thing.

Oversteer is easy to correct but it was almost like someone snatched the e-brake and wouldn't let off.

[MetalGear]

I went through 5 pages of people's likes and dislikes about the feather light clutch, and noticed nobody has mentioned this point I am going to raise now.

When I was learning and practising left foot braking for the first time with a medium-hard clutch, I noticed straight away that the muscle memory in my left leg was too used to using more strength to operate the clutch. When it came to using my left foot to brake it was a totally different feel, and the braking was way too hard when practising left foot braking.

This feather light clutch reprograms my left leg muscle memory with practice, and engaging left foot braking with a light left foot is perfect!

[nalc]

I'm not a huge fan of it (although my experience has been the opposite of the German = heavy, Japanese = light clutch claimed earlier)

My prior two cars (97 Maxima and 00 LGT) had, to me at least, much stiffer clutches than the BRZ does, whereas the B5.5 Passat I drive occasionally has a very similar clutch to the BRZ.

I'm still getting used to it, but I doubt I'd mess around with trying to adjust it.

[Mad_Mike]

Coming from a 95 BMW 325i, it is extremely light. It feels like the pedal of an arcade racing game. The feedback is basically non existent. The difference between when it starts to get in gear and when it actually does is too big. I thought I would get used to it, 3.2k miles later and I still haven't. I don't like the clutches in the new bmws either - too light.

[bucket]

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

Coming from a 95 BMW 325i, it is extremely light. It feels like the pedal of an arcade racing game. The feedback is basically non existent. The difference between when it starts to get in gear and when it actually does is too big. I thought I would get used to it, 3.2k miles later and I still haven't. I don't like the clutches in the new bmws either - too light.

My other manual transmission car has a very stiff and grabby clutch (exedy hyper single), and driving that car is near telepathic for me. 8k miles later, and I still can't shift my brz as smoothly and grind the occasional gear. The clutch feels like a broken toilet handle, and I operate it mostly on faith.

[Zyo81]

I could do with it being a bit stiffer. Also would prefer a lower engagement spot. I haven't gotten used to it, but I also drive a mustang with a fairly heavy clutch. I find that when I'm off work wearing sneakers I have no problem, but when I'm wearing my work boots for the commute I've stalled this car more times than all other cars combined, and I've been driving stick for 15 years.

[Clembo]

After 50+ years of driving nothing but manuals, I think this clutch is fine. Light, like most are today, but I doubt I'd want some of the ones from the 60's muscle cars at my age. I remember using two feet to hold some down at traffic lights.

Mine begins to engage about an inch off the floor and finishes about two inches from the top. Most of the 'action' is right in the middle, very similar to my late-model Mustang. It was a bit stiff and jerky when new but now that things are broken in it feels just about perfect to me.

Like the Mustang, it shifts as quick as I want to, never misses a shift and never grids a gear. Best of all, it's easy on old legs. All-in-all, I'm very pleased.

[OnkelC]

the MT powertrain as a unit is great fun to work with.

[campy]

The light clutch makes it a good daily driver. People complain that it catches very far out, but it is so much closer to the floor than my old z3 or 911, in which you have to move your entire leg to shift. It is fine once you get used to it, and I have no complaints.

[2010t]

Couple weeks ago I went to test drive Mazdaspeed3 and Fr-S. I test drove MS3 first, and clutch was stiff and grabbed very low. After I got done with MS3, I went to test drive FR-S, and It was so different. It was softer and grabbed pretty high. But every car has a different clutch. You get used to it pretty quickly.