Nameless Performance Strut Bars: Lets Discuss.

[Matt Andrews]

Originally Posted by 7thgear

haha, actually i wasn't thinking about drifting, just the general idea that if people wanted to lower the car and retain oem geometry etc.

I'd agree with this. Few things are as effective at keeping stock geometry and lowering a car like drop spindles.

[denkigrve]

Originally Posted by Matt Andrews

I'd agree with this. Few things are as effective at keeping stock geometry and lowering a car like drop spindles.

Moto posted that Tada-san said the stock suspension geometry was made to handle and perform optimally at 20mm +/- 15mm below the stock height. I'm about to experiment with that and drop 30mm.

On the stuck suspension I've noticed a decent amount of bump steer doing just daily driving. I'm curious to see just how different that will feel at 25-30mm lower.

[xcelir8brz]

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Jason

SCCA stock, touring, prepared rules:

Strut bars are permitted with all types of suspension, subject to the following constraints:

1. A two-point strut bar may be added, removed, modified, or substituted, but only with another two-point strut bar.

2. A triangulated (3-point) strut bar may be removed, modified, or substituted; substitution may be with either a triangulated or a twopoint strut bar. The connection to the chassis (i.e., firewall, bulkhead, etc) must be in the standard location.

For steet modified - Suspension components are unrestricted as long as they use the original attachment points

Shaun

[Memphis]

If you guys come up with a full body brace kit (underside, strut bars, sway bars, etc.) I will buy it. Just throwing it out there.

[Black Tire]

I'm really excited to see your products. I sold my 1999 BMW M3 to buy a Scion FR-S. The M3 had a strut brace from Strong Strut:

http://www.strongstrut.com/

Take a look at their "Strut Brace Facts," they also build seriously strong braces but with a slightly different design philosophy. I contacted them, and they are not interested in developing a brace for the FR-S. For now they want to stick with BMW only. Therefore, I am very interested to see what you come up with. The braces you show look strong, and able to seriously improve the chassis. Driving my M3 on the track with the strut brace (and a lower X-brace) was like night and day compared to driving it without. The Strong Strut had a thick (at least 0.25") steel ring at the strut tower. This helped reduce the chances of the strut tower sheet metal cracking from fatigue with aggressive suspension setups. The Strong Strut braces have very little adjustment, but I never found a need for any. Here are some pictures of my M3 braces:

Lower X-brace - This part was made by BMW to stiffen the convertible E36 offerings, but also worked wonders on a full chassis.



Strut Tower Brace - From Strong Strut. Solid steel bar and strut tower rings.

[7thgear]

looks like this got put on hold?

[WingsofWar]

hey jason, have you put any calculated any stress and deflection from the stock tower bars?

Personally id like to see numbers and slalom improvement sheets when looking at these kinds of things.

In the past with my previous cars iv always thought, OH strut tower bar has to do something positive! so i buy it, without really thinking of if i need it, or how it changes the cars drive. I think iv grown up a bit to really want data.

[wootwoot]

Originally Posted by WingsofWar

hey jason, have you put any calculated any stress and deflection from the stock tower bars?

Personally id like to see numbers and slalom improvement sheets when looking at these kinds of things.

In the past with my previous cars iv always thought, OH strut tower bar has to do something positive! so i buy it, without really thinking of if i need it, or how it changes the cars drive. I think iv grown up a bit to really want data.

[Ranatsu]

Just bumping this to see if maybe its still on the table.

[Jive Turkey]

maybe if you incorporate the strut bar with the other triangle brace that works with a catch can/AOS?

[Chewie4299]

@Jason@Nameless Didja forget about your thread????

Understandable given the deeeeelicous work you're doing on the header

[TRD_07]

any updates on this?

[kask2_6.0]

bump for updates..