What you HATE the most on your FR-S/BRZ/GT86/FT86?

[LotsaMiles]

Originally Posted by guybo

It doesn't have a sunglasses holder above the mirror. My biggest gripe with the car.

It's an annoyance for me as well. What I do is unfold my sunglasses and push one of the frame pieces up behind and above the passenger sun visor as far as it will go until the indent in the headliner for the visor. When in place they hang vertically and look like they are "looking" at the back of the car. They stay there until I need them, thanks to that lip in the headliner.

It works for me because I virtually never have a passenger in the car.

[Yardjass]

Originally Posted by LotsaMiles

It's an annoyance for me as well. What I do is unfold my sunglasses and push one of the frame pieces up behind and above the passenger sun visor as far as it will go until the indent in the headliner for the visor. When in place they hang vertically and look like they are "looking" at the back of the car. They stay there until I need them, thanks to that lip in the headliner.

It works for me because I virtually never have a passenger in the car.

I just put mine in a hard case and throw it in the glovebox or that storage compartment on the driver's side door. My VW had an overhead sunglasses compartment but I honestly rarely used it other than to store a backup set of cheap sunglasses. When they were out of sight like that, I would leave them in there when I was using another car or needing them when I wasn't driving.

[MurderousPandas]

Originally Posted by LotsaMiles

Cup holders are too far back.

Oh, the humanity!

Sort of this. They are far back, but there's no where else to put them. And on top of that, i hit it and sometimes whatever is in the cup holder as well while shifting.

"Chasing speed with patience"

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Makes no sense to me, having to push down (towards the floor) to SET.

down to slow down
up to speed up

down to set
up to resume

I'm pretty sure that was adopted as a standard like, forever ago.

I love where it is placed.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

down to slow down
up to speed up

down to set
up to resume

I'm pretty sure that was adopted as a standard like, forever ago.

I love where it is placed.

That's because that's the way old @Ultramaroon learned how to drive a team of horses ....... after ya got the speed right, just tie off the reins ........


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

That's because that's the way old @Ultramaroon learned how to drive a team of horses ....... after ya got the speed right, just tie off the reins ........

True story. Check out my staggered setup.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

True story. Check out my staggered setup.

In addition, isn't that a blue wing I see on the back .... ??

And, as high as those horses are stepping, I suspect you had them shod with aluminum shoes ......


humfrz

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by humfrz

In addition, isn't that a blue wing I see on the back .... ??

And, as high as those horses are stepping, I suspect you had them shod with aluminum shoes ......

CF all the way for my girls. Gotta keep both horsepower hooked up.

[ToySub1946]

From Ultramaroon:

"down to slow down
up to speed up

down to set
up to resume

I'm pretty sure that was adopted as a standard like, forever ago."


Well maybe on these Furn cars. I've never owned a Toyota in the past, with a stalk as cruise control function instrument.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

From Ultramaroon:

"down to slow down
up to speed up

down to set
up to resume

I'm pretty sure that was adopted as a standard like, forever ago."


Well maybe on these Furn cars. I've never owned a Toyota in the past, with a stalk as cruise control function instrument.

Standard controls on all forklifts, backhoes, dump trucks, aircraft, and damn near anything that has an up and down movement for the last 50 years and totally intuitive. The stalk controller was used on most North American cars for about 20 years until somebody had the thought to make them harder to use and put them on the steering wheel,
It may be just a case of what you are used to but how on earth does a left and right side movement be more intuitive then an up and down movement for speed?

This seems incredibly awkward to me:

[ToySub1946]

Both hands are supposed to be on the steering wheel at all times.

The cruise buttons to be used with one's thumbs.



Well, I do admit....I drive almost always with one hand, the left one. Right hand used for radio and hvac controls, gearshift lever, hand brake. Both hands on the steering wheel for curves, sometimes. Love the smallish wheel on my FRS.


I'm a person who uses cruise control a lot. Annoys me others don't seem to use it as much as I do. Often finding others, at freeway speeds, constantly changing their speed. Makes it difficult to decide to pass their vehicles or not to do so. Well, that's what driving experience is all about...figuring out what the other guy/gal is doing.

Another freeway annoyance. People deciding to pass the vehicle in front of them at the last possible moment, whilst I'm in the fast lane, just behind them. Why don't people look ahead, plan ahead ? Plan your moves in advance if possible. Fortunately I'm not a semi driver. They have it the worst, with idiots in front of them.


Some of us recall when the high beam switch was on the floor...to be used with left foot...a great idea which faded in time.

And American cars slowly adopted having the headlamps and wipers on stalks, as the Japs had done for years. Possibly a good idea that was.

IMHO...Adopting a third stalk next to and below steering wheels for cruise, a very bad idea that was. Never will get used to it...too confusing, three stalks.

Edit: 11-19-16, 8:19am PST. Yes, I edited, always do, that's just how I write, constantly editing as I go...LOL.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Both hands are supposed to be on the steering wheel at all times.

The cruise buttons to be used with one's thumbs.



Well, I do admit....I drive almost always with one hand, the left one. Right hand used for radio and hvac controls, gearshift lever, hand brake. Both hands on the steering wheel for curves, sometimes. Love the smallish wheel on my FRS.

But both hands are on the wheel with the stalk. You stick one finger out to use it. My thumb would not reach those buttons if my life depended on it!

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

IMHO...Adopting a third stalk next to and below steering wheels for cruise, a very bad idea that was. Never will get used to it...too confusing, three stalks.

Don't give up. You'll get the hang of it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Both hands are supposed to be on the steering wheel at all times.

The cruise buttons to be used with one's thumbs.



Well, I do admit....I drive almost always with one hand, the left one. Right hand used for radio and hvac controls, gearshift lever, hand brake. Both hands on the steering wheel for curves, sometimes. Love the smallish wheel on my FRS.


I'm a person who uses cruise control a lot. Annoys me others don't seem to use it as much as I do. Often finding others, at freeway speeds, constantly changing their speed. Makes it difficult to decide to pass their vehicles or not to do so. Well, that's what driving experience is all about...figuring out what the other guy/gal is doing.

Another freeway annoyance. People deciding to pass the vehicle in front of them at the last possible moment, whilst I'm in the fast lane, just behind them. Why don't people look ahead, plan ahead ? Plan your moves in advance if possible. Fortunately I'm not a semi driver. They have it the worst, with idiots in front of them.


Some of us recall when the high beam switch was on the floor...to be used with left foot...a great idea which faded in time.

And American cars slowly adopted having the headlamps and wipers on stalks, as the Japs had done for years. Possibly a good idea that was.

IMHO...Adopting a third stalk next to and below steering wheels for cruise, a very bad idea that was. Never will get used to it...too confusing, three stalks.

You edited on me!
I spend about 12 hours a week on cruise and agree with you 100%.

The high beam on the floor may have been a great idea where the floors never got wet, Between the water and salt around here they usually seized solid within 2 or 3 years.

I think the stalks were one of the best things to ever happen but I come from cars where a two inch error in hand position meant you pulled the choke out instead of turned the headlights on.