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Old 11-16-2016, 11:26 AM   #15
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There's an HKS pro dealer 1.5 hours away. I'm beginning to think based on people's commentary that the value of having that nearby might, by itself, make my decision for me. It ensures a good tune, strong support, reliable help trouble shooting, etc.

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Just a general question about the F/I options mentioned in this thread...do all of them use an intercooler, or are there some that are directly plumbed to the engine? Is the boost significantly lower in those versions? Just wondering if there's an F/I kit available in a very low boost configuration that doesn't create the issues associated with higher numbers, similar to the electric kit that's out there? Just musing, really...
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Yup all kits mentioned so far in this thread are intercooled. If you want a simple, non-intercooled supercharger you can opt for the innovate stage 1 kit (twin screw, not centrifugal). I read it works decently well, especially if you run flex fuel.
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Jackson racing, hands down.
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Old 11-16-2016, 02:30 PM   #19
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Yup all kits mentioned so far in this thread are intercooled. If you want a simple, non-intercooled supercharger you can opt for the innovate stage 1 kit (twin screw, not centrifugal). I read it works decently well, especially if you run flex fuel.
Only if you want to do 1 pull at a time with a cool-down in between. Even intercooled, it heat soaks very, very quickly.
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Only if you want to do 1 pull at a time with a cool-down in between. Even intercooled, it heat soaks very, very quickly.
Agree - Moto Mike mentions E85 helps a ton, but in essence it's a strictly street kit. If you think about it, street driving is mostly that - one good pull followed by a fairly lengthy cool down time. Or a series of very small full throttle/part throttle episodes when canyon carving. I think it'll handle that ok. Track? Not as good.
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Jackson racing, hands down.
That's a bold statement. I assume you're speaking from personal experience and you did drive (perhaps even on track) the other 3 kits, not just JR which CSG sells?
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That's a bold statement. I assume you're speaking from personal experience and you did drive (perhaps even on track) the other 3 kits, not just JR which CSG sells?
CSG sells 3 of the 4 centrifugal kits. The choice for the JRSC being on the CSG BRZ was for technical reasons.

Yes, I've driven EVERY centrifugal kit on track, in every configuration, and every variant (multiple KW, V1-3 HKS with and without built motor, both variants of the Vortech both pre and post update).
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Old 11-17-2016, 03:07 PM   #23
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CSG sells 3 of the 4 centrifugal kits.
really? via email request? asking because they're not listed on the web page, the only centrifugal kits I see is JR:

http://counterspacegarage.com/produc...0&part_type=82
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really? via email request? asking because they're not listed on the web page, the only centrifugal kits I see is JR:

http://counterspacegarage.com/produc...0&part_type=82
HKS and Vortech are available upon request.

It doesn't change the fact that the JRSC is still the best centrifugal kit available, and CSG only prefers to sell the best.
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the fact that the JRSC is still the best centrifugal kit available.
the fact? i'd say it's subjective and you seem to be very opinionated

eg, what's wrong with vortech, in your opinion? btw, they're on v3 now, not just pre and post update. it seems pretty reliable according to this http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94702

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Only if you want to do 1 pull at a time with a cool-down in between. Even intercooled, it heat soaks very, very quickly.
but still sells innovate

no offense, but you sound like bunch of marketing bs from companies: "We are market leader in ..." blah-blah and all those companies are "market leaders".

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the fact? i'd say it's subjective and you seem to be very opinionated

eg, what's wrong with vortech, in your opinion? btw, they're on v3 now, not just pre and post update.



according to the above, Delicious Tuning (since CSG sells their tunes) is the best tuner then. I think other tuners may not agree with this
Please remember the context of this thread. Most reliable. I'd agree with Mike that Jackson Racing is likely the best in that regard. That doesn't mean the other options are bad.
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Please remember the context of this thread. Most reliable. I'd agree with Mike that Jackson Racing is likely the best in that regard. That doesn't mean the other options are bad.
sure I remember, and i don't disagree with you on saying "I'd agree with Mike that Jackson Racing is likely the best".

however "hands down" and "fact" imo is questionable

anyways it was fun

@CSG Mike just pulling your leg
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sure I remember, and i don't disagree with you on saying "I'd agree with Mike that Jackson Racing is likely the best".

however "hands down" and "fact" imo is questionable

anyways it was fun

@CSG Mike just pulling your leg
Lol I thought you were going to troll him some more
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