Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Flex fuel or a straight E85 tune? I would do flex fuel in a heartbeat, just to have the flexibility and get the alternative fuel parking. I would not do a straight E85 map, because what happens if you can't get it one time?

Oh yeah gonna go flex fuel 100%. Anything over E70 is a waste anyways

Originally Posted by iamjacob

Wow, I thought it was supposed to be cheaper than normal dinosaur juice. Wasn't that supposed to be the argument, you need more but it cost less.

Hahaha yeah but you can not buy it out here I would have to order it by the drum. Perks of that is I will make way more power then any other local can ever dream of

[Zaku]

First time checking and posting on the forums while flying, sweet!

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Oh yeah gonna go flex fuel 100%. Anything over E70 is a waste anyways



Hahaha yeah but you can not buy it out here I would have to order it by the drum. Perks of that is I will make way more power then any other local can ever dream of

What do you mean by "anything over 70 is a waste"???

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Hahaha yeah but you can not buy it out here I would have to order it by the drum. Perks of that is I will make way more power then any other local can ever dream of

OK so now you are getting totally carried away. No way to sugar coat it so just gonna say it. That is one dumbass plan. Buying drums at $1.70 a liter is fine for occasional track use but just pissing money down the drain for a DD when you burn through a drum a week. Where the hell ya gonna drive where you can even touch that power level anyway?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Zaku

First time checking and posting on the forums while flying, sweet!

I hope you are a passenger!

[iamjacob]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

Hahaha yeah but you can not buy it out here I would have to order it by the drum. Perks of that is I will make way more power then any other local can ever dream of

That's a lot of drums to be ordering to have fuel on hand. 50 gallons is 4 tanks and you'd be getting about 20ish mpg. So about 1000 miles worth per drum.

Does that price include delivery?

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

Flex fuel or a straight E85 tune? I would do flex fuel in a heartbeat, just to have the flexibility and get the alternative fuel parking. I would not do a straight E85 map, because what happens if you can't get it one time?

I actually need to learn more about this. Our station that I thought was E85 is actually flex fuel, and said between something like 51-81% ethanol. Not sure what to do now:/
I was just going to use E85.

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

What do you mean by "anything over 70 is a waste"???

You can only advance timing so far. You can only run so much boost until the rods give out. Unless I lower the CR and get beefy rods I don't need the extra 15%. So in my case I only really need E70.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

OK so now you are getting totally carried away. No way to sugar coat it so just gonna say it. That is one dumbass plan. Buying drums at $1.70 a liter is fine for occasional track use but just pissing money down the drain for a DD when you burn through a drum a week. Where the hell ya gonna drive where you can even touch that power level anyway?

Valid point. Right now its far too much for street use. Sure its nice to pass but how often do you need to pass someone on a 1 lane highway. Maybe I should put the money into something else. And yeah I would always DD with E85 cuz that is such a waste

Originally Posted by iamjacob

That's a lot of drums to be ordering to have fuel on hand. 50 gallons is 4 tanks and you'd be getting about 20ish mpg. So about 1000 miles worth per drum.

Does that price include delivery?

That's shipped to my door price.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

I actually need to learn more about this. Our station that I thought was E85 is actually flex fuel, and sayd between something like 51-81% ethanol. Not sure what to do now:/
I was just going to use E85.

All stations are like that. If you want to run corn you need flex fuel. I live in Iowa and have never once in 2 years found a station that actually has 85% ethanol. Best I've done is 80%. It's usually 70% even in the summer

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

I actually need to learn more about this. Our station that I thought was E85 is actually flex fuel, and sayd between something like 51-81% ethanol. Not sure what to do now:/
I was just going to use E85.

E content changes with the seasons. Flex fuel is the way to go unless your car is going to exclusively run E85 from drums or a reliable source like a fueling station at the track.

Flex fuel is the ability for your tune to measure (extra hardware needed) and adjust for the E content.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

You can only advance timing so far. You can only run so much boost until the rods give out. Unless I lower the CR and get beefy rods I don't need the extra 15%. So in my case I only really need E70.



Valid point. Right now its far too much for street use. Sure its nice to pass but how often do you need to pass someone on a 1 lane highway. Maybe I should put the money into something else. And yeah I would always DD with E85 cuz that is such a waste



That's shipped to my door price.

I could see it for your boosted application. I was told most of your corn power is made beyond 70%

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by go_a_way1

E content changes with the seasons. Flex fuel is the way to go unless your car is going to exclusively run E85 from drums or a reliable source like a fueling station at the track.

Flex fuel is the ability for your tune to measure (extra hardware needed) and adjust for the E content.

The actually flex fuel equipment is only like $400, silly to risk an engine over it

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

I actually need to learn more about this. Our station that I thought was E85 is actually flex fuel, and sayd between something like 51-81% ethanol. Not sure what to do now:/
I was just going to use E85.

E85 pumps are rarely actually 85% ethanol. Usually they're about what you're finding; somewhere between 50-85%. Talk to @moto-mike or @Moto-Phil from Moto East about their flex fuel kit. I would rather my car be able to adjust its tune for the percent of ethanol instead of be locked in to just 85%.

[go_a_way1]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I could see it for your boosted application. I was told most of your corn power is made beyond 70%

Talk to your tuner and see what he/she says. Like I said timing can only go so far

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

The actually flex fuel equipment is only like $400, silly to risk an engine over it

^ this!! haha no point in risking it unless its 100% pure track car I guess