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Old 11-04-2016, 02:53 AM   #15
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What I'm curious about, is what do people think of the SBD turbo kit? It seems like a really affordable option with ease of tuning since it can be tuned with OFT. But I've read about people saying it's a cheap knock off of the Greddy turbo or that you have to modify your front crash bar, etc. like is it really a plug and play installation or does it require cutting?
SBD is probably the best bang for the buck HP wise. It is the Greddy kit same way Gruppe S is Tomei headers. There was a shitstorm when early sbd kits shipped with visable greddy branding.

Not sure about the install but Neal can make it plug and play for you. Most turbos require modding the crash bar to route piping, intercoolers etc iirc.
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Lol sorry, your car literally looks the same as his
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SBD is probably the best bang for the buck HP wise. It is the Greddy kit same way Gruppe S is Tomei headers. There was a shitstorm when early sbd kits shipped with visable greddy branding.

Not sure about the install but Neal can make it plug and play for you. Most turbos require modding the crash bar to route piping, intercoolers etc iirc.
So it's literally a white box rebranded Greddy kit? So the rumors about this kit were true then? If so I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this then
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Thanks a lot for all the responses. I've been talking with Neal a bit through email and while I absolutely love the turbo sound. I can't afford to be THAT greedy. I think for now I'm going to lean heavily towards the edelbrock kit as a lot of people report feelings lots of low end kick and good high end power. Plus the warranty since I have a brand new car. And the carb legal thing too. Love you guys. Best car community I've been a part of.


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Too many WRBs w/ gold wheels. I guess I'll change my profile pic to a car seat and cargobox
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They only plug into the OBD port and check readiness monitors and visually look at the car(this is the main reason most mods won't pass). The problem with this ECU is no one has figured out how to make all the readiness monitors set, without actually having the the systems in place.

They can't just change the threshold to make the monitors pass/ready no matter what the value is like they did with older Subaru ECUs? Not that it matters here since you'd still have to deal with visual inspections.

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At the risk of sounding like a rude dוֹck, why do you think you need more power?

Loving the sound of a turbo or sc isn't a great reason to go FI. Are you trying to set faster lap times in competitive events?

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At the risk of sounding like a rude dוֹck, why do you think you need more power?

Loving the sound of a turbo or sc isn't a great reason to go FI. Are you trying to set faster lap times in competitive events?
It's a reasonable question i dont think you sound like a **** =D. I dont actually think i NEED more power. I've always been a fan of modifying cars and now that i actually have the resources to essentially do whatever i want with a car it's something i've always wanted to do. I like taking a stock car that meets essentially all my wants and needs and then adding mods here and there to just make it my own and customize my own driving experience.

I personally dont have a problem with the car NA...or stock for that matter. I flashed back to stock tune recently to see if i could notice a difference. And while i did notice a big difference, i also realised how much i still enjoy this car stock.

In my personal opinion, i dont think you need "faster lap times" in order to justify adding more power to a car. The reason i say that is because plenty of people will buy a car from the factory that has massive hp as a DD. Could i have done that? Sure. But i LOVE the 86 platform. I LOVE the customization that it has and for me that is why i choose to make a slow car fast.

This answer went a bit longer than expected. But i think thats because theres a stigma whenever someone says they want to boost. i think it comes with the term "this is how it should have come from the factory". I dont believe that to be the case here. I think my BRZ came PERFECT from the factory. Now it's time to make it a little more me.
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Keep in mind when going FI, that anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Might be wise to budget extra money beyond what the kit & install itself costs in case of unforeseen circumstances.

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i choose to make a slow car fast.
A stock/lightly modded twin is not a "slow car". If you think it is, you are either not driving it to it's actual limits/capability, or you are focused on going fast in a straight line, which pretty much goes against everything this car is about.

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Now it's time to make it a little more me.
I guess I just don't understand going FI without a practical purpose to do so. But at the end of the day it's your car, so enjoy.
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At the risk of sounding like a rude dוֹck, why do you think you need more power?

Loving the sound of a turbo or sc isn't a great reason to go FI. Are you trying to set faster lap times in competitive events?
You make a good point and I believe that 90% of 86 drivers are still N/A. Then you have that few 10% who went FI. Who doesn't love more power tho?! But yeah for the average Joe who takes there car to late night Walmart trips where does FI find its use? Lol But if your paying for it why not. Good points
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I guess I just don't understand going FI without a practical purpose to do so. But at the end of the day it's your car, so enjoy.
Idk, hitting traffic on the Altamont and having to rev the shit outta the car to pick up speed kinda sucks. A CARB legal SC sounds like a nice improvement even for a DD. Canyon/track car would be NA for me which sounds backwards but is how I'd go if I had a 2nd.
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Nice, but you want to stop that enjoyment. Okay.



A stock/lightly modded twin is not a "slow car". If you think it is, you are either not driving it to it's actual limits/capability, or you are focused on going fast in a straight line, which pretty much goes against everything this car is about.



I guess I just don't understand going FI without a practical purpose to do so. But at the end of the day it's your car, so enjoy.

Well for me its about enhancing the enjoyment. Again making it my own.

I apologize. I used the "slow car fast" line more as a jest. I dont actually think this car is slow at all. Took it on some canyon runs and if anything it's the driver that was slow (me) =D.

So why go FI? Well unfortunately this high paying job i currently have doesnt allow too much time to actually do those canyon runs as often as i would like. Most of my driving unfortunately are freeway miles. And so what better to have fun on the free way than to go fast in a straight line? =P. It's a decision thats taken a lot of thinking and research. And to be perfectly honest, there is a chance i may not do it at all. But getting to know the systems, how it affects the car. It's all interesting to me.

I'm pretty sure in your mind i'm "ruining" the car and that i "dont get it". Believe me. I do. But what i also "get" is that Toyobaru intended this platform to mimic the old 90's platform of highly modifiable coupes. And i'm taking more of that approach to the car than anything else. I'll never be a canyon killer or a time trial beast. I dont have the time or honestly the skill to do that right now. If that was my goal i would just stick with bolt on mods and spend all my money on wheels and tires lol. And so i'm going to mod out my car in the way that i want for the driving conditions that i have. As much fun as i have just driving to the grocery store everyday. As soon as i hit the highway for work...well...highway driving is generally never fun no matter what car you have.
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Well for me its about enhancing the enjoyment. Again making it my own.

I apologize. I used the "slow car fast" line more as a jest. I dont actually think this car is slow at all. Took it on some canyon runs and if anything it's the driver that was slow (me) =D.

So why go FI? Well unfortunately this high paying job i currently have doesnt allow too much time to actually do those canyon runs as often as i would like. Most of my driving unfortunately are freeway miles. And so what better to have fun on the free way than to go fast in a straight line? =P. It's a decision thats taken a lot of thinking and research. And to be perfectly honest, there is a chance i may not do it at all. But getting to know the systems, how it affects the car. It's all interesting to me.

I'm pretty sure in your mind i'm "ruining" the car and that i "dont get it". Believe me. I do. But what i also "get" is that Toyobaru intended this platform to mimic the old 90's platform of highly modifiable coupes. And i'm taking more of that approach to the car than anything else. I'll never be a canyon killer or a time trial beast. I dont have the time or honestly the skill to do that right now. If that was my goal i would just stick with bolt on mods and spend all my money on wheels and tires lol. And so i'm going to mod out my car in the way that i want for the driving conditions that i have. As much fun as i have just driving to the grocery store everyday. As soon as i hit the highway for work...well...highway driving is generally never fun no matter what car you have.
Can I get in on that high Paying job too lol
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