PSA- Don't race on streets. Could Stance have created this crash?

[guybo]

There was a horrific accident in the Tampa area last night. This guy https://www.facebook.com/pablo.cortes.391 in a stanced Golf was coming back from a meet up (I think it was this ricer meet called Hot Tampa Nights), witnesses say he was racing 1 or 2 other cars, lost control went into oncoming traffic and caused a bad accident in which 5 people died, including 4 people 18 or younger.

Moral of the story: Don't race on public roads

Question- Is it possible he lost control because his car had stretched tires and extreme camber? We all know it is awful for car performance- could it also be dangerous?


Before all the stancetards comments come in and people get rowdy- remember that 5 people died. LAST NIGHT. One of the dead is this kid. Be respectful and let's have a serious discussion.

[gramicci101]

He lost control because he was a fucking tool and put his desire to be a jackass above the lives of the people around him. But yes, drastically decreasing the traction of his car probably contributed.

[cjd]

Really not sure what you hope to gain from this thread. Speculation is useless in this specific instance. And in general?

Anything that negatively impacts handling of a vehicle has the potential to exacerbate any bad situation, and becomes a contributing factor in the severity of any incident that might take place. That includes things like rain or snow, which is why you might slow down a little bit over your usual on corners, launches, even just driving straight (if it's bad rain or snow.)

[Impureclient]

"FHP said that alcohol nor street racing were factors in the crash"

There's no snow in FL and it hasn't rained for days in the Tampa area.

[guybo]

Speed was a factor

[cjd]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

There's no snow in FL and it hasn't rained for days in the Tampa area.

Those were examples of conditions that lead to a reduction in traction; the typical response by a driver in such conditions is to drive slower - which is good for safety. I guess I was implying that someone that has stanced their car may NOT follow similar safety guidelines despite the reduction in traction.

[radroach]

not ragging on you @guybo personally, but:

Florida man

is a meme for a reason.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by guybo

Question- Is it possible he lost control because his car had stretched tires and extreme camber? We all know it is awful for car performance- could it also be dangerous?

There are a couple of argument rules broken here.
One can be stanced and not race nor crash.
One can be unstanced and race and crash.
Does A cause B? Well, sometimes.
You are using a leading questions. Is it possible? Of course it's possible but the article doesn't say. Could it be dangerous? Of course. But so is running on under inflated tyres. Once again we don't know. Until a statement is made from police and/or traffic forensics we don't know and speculation will be rife.

People crash and die on a regular bases. It is a sad fact of life.

[Mr.ac]

Unless you where there and saw it, you can say it it was because of X or X.
Since we where not, I can't say what caused it.

That being said I personally seen stance cars, twice had blow outs on the freeway. Every one knew shit was about to go down because you can see the rubber chunks and the smell of burning tire right behind him.

Going back to the main topic, it's not the first time street racing end up killing some one.
You would figure how could shit go wrong while going in a straight line, right?

[PMPB]

What a stupid facking thread.

Crash and death was a result of racing. Was the compromised suspension and tires a contributing factor? Does it matter? If this was on a race track we could probably have an academic and well informed discussion about this, but it was on a street, so the only thing that matters was that there were victims and then people driving in a reckless manner causing loss of life.

[PandaSPUR]

While I think stanced cars are dumb, the main cause of the accident here was irresponsible driving.

Can't blame it on the stanced set up. It would be like yelling at people for putting FI in their twins because it would lead to more dangerous crashes.

[SquadRon]

how did they die 5 people in yhat car and not 1 airbag?

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by SquadRon

how did they die 5 people in yhat car and not 1 airbag?

Read the post again. It doesn't say 5 people died in one car.

[KR-S]

Stance did not solely cause the crash, assuming it was a factor in the crash. It may have been a combination of speed, stance, and stupidity that has unfortunately taken five lives.

We weren't there for it, so who knows. Speed and stupidity are normally enough to cause a crash anyway.

Also, please don't do stupid shit on the streets. Mustangs have a shitty reputation now because of it; let's avoid having people think we'll all dipshits on this platform too.