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Leonardo · 10-25-2016, 02:17 PM

It looks cool.

Also, kinda reminds me of the concept golf... W12...

strat61caster · 10-25-2016, 02:43 PM

It'd have to be absolutely perfect for me to trade, doubt that would happen as odds are it'd end up in STI/GolfR/FoRS territory on pricing and >3,000 lbs on the curb weight, both of which are major stumbling blocks for me.

Not even mentioning the fact that Hyundai hasn't quite nailed the dynamics of a fun car as mentioned before.

serialk11r · 10-25-2016, 04:24 PM

Interesting, but I hope they don't actually try to make a midengine hatchback. It's adds some weight since you need a humongous firewall with lots of sound deadening, and doesn't look as cool as a coupe. I think Lotus was right in not making the area above the engine available for storage on their cars (though they should have opened up the frunk for storage instead of their crap radiator ducting).

Not really worried about the powertrain, that can be modified.

JazzleSAURUS · 10-25-2016, 04:52 PM

This sounds like one of those neat ideas that dies a fiery death when the execution is attempted.

extrashaky · 10-25-2016, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Would you trade in your 86 / BRZ for this?

Would I trade my BRZ for a mystery car I've never driven that may or may not actually get produced, about which we have no reliable information at all and which may actually suck to drive?

I could do that. But that would make me a fucking idiot.

guybo · 10-25-2016, 09:34 PM

If it ever sees the street, I'll definately test drive it, but I don't think I'll ever own another Hyundai. My Gen was fun, but in the end not the safest car with the bad brakes and terrible electronic assists and horrible ABS- the ABS in that car was a joke. But I wouldn't mind taking the Veloster M for a spin.

why? · 10-26-2016, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

It'd have to be absolutely perfect for me to trade, doubt that would happen as odds are it'd end up in STI/GolfR/FoRS territory on pricing and >3,000 lbs on the curb weight, both of which are major stumbling blocks for me.

Not even mentioning the fact that Hyundai hasn't quite nailed the dynamics of a fun car as mentioned before.

Yea but hyundai can always bring in Lotus to figure that out. There is no need for it to be that heavy if they try to keep it reasonably lightweight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Interesting, but I hope they don't actually try to make a midengine hatchback. It's adds some weight since you need a humongous firewall with lots of sound deadening, and doesn't look as cool as a coupe. I think Lotus was right in not making the area above the engine available for storage on their cars (though they should have opened up the frunk for storage instead of their crap radiator ducting).

Not really worried about the powertrain, that can be modified.

who needs sound deadening, just make the engine sound awesome. I hate coupes, i wish the twins were hatches. And if they try they can make it lightweight, it does not need to be as big as the twins, just big enough.

weederr33 · 10-26-2016, 04:08 PM

I'd take it if it were a front-engine rear drive hatch.

Twinz · 10-26-2016, 06:14 PM

Mid-engine cars can drift. One of our former regulars used to run a MR2 and get in trouble for drifting on track -almost regularly. (He was pretty good at it though)

I have gotten a lot of different mid-engine cars "on their toes" and more than a few "out of shape" and, they generally behaved very well. I have also driven a lot of rear-engine 911's and only liked the newest version I drove once things got hairy. (I suspect the electronics were not completely off on that version though)

serialk11r · 10-26-2016, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by why?

who needs sound deadening, just make the engine sound awesome. I hate coupes, i wish the twins were hatches. And if they try they can make it lightweight, it does not need to be as big as the twins, just big enough.

Let me ask you a question, do you think your car is loud?

My MR2 has extra sound deadening over the firewall and a stock muffler, and it's louder in the cabin than my FR-S when it had a track pipe, despite sounding just like a stock Corolla from the outside. There is such a thing as unacceptably loud.

Even if you don't care about loud, there's also the heat issue. You cannot pipe air to the center of the engine so it gets hot, and so you'll need substantial thermal insulation. This is why a Porsche Cayman is not much lighter than a Boxster with its power soft top.

why? · 10-26-2016, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by serialk11r

Let me ask you a question, do you think your car is loud?

My MR2 has extra sound deadening over the firewall and a stock muffler, and it's louder in the cabin than my FR-S when it had a track pipe, despite sounding just like a stock Corolla from the outside. There is such a thing as unacceptably loud.

Even if you don't care about loud, there's also the heat issue. You cannot pipe air to the center of the engine so it gets hot, and so you'll need substantial thermal insulation. This is why a Porsche Cayman is not much lighter than a Boxster with its power soft top.

no my car is quiet. My last car was a Yaris, and I removed everything behind the front two seats. It had even less insulation than the twins do and I literally could here the gas sloshing in the tank if I turned off the radio. It was wondrous. If you get the venting and ducting done properly heating won't be an issue. The VW Bug was rear engined and never once did anyone complain about the car being too hot.

geezerbrzeezer · 10-26-2016, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Would I trade my BRZ for a mystery car I've never driven that may or may not actually get produced, about which we have no reliable information at all and which may actually suck to drive?

I could do that. But that would make me a fucking idiot.

Okay, not only is that the truth, I cracked up and spit out some coffee.

radroach · 10-26-2016, 10:38 PM

Really not into Hyundai's turbo i4. It's a pretty blah engine.

Allch Chcar · 10-27-2016, 12:57 AM

I'm not enthusiastic about it. It does look tiny though.

View Poll Results: Would You Trade Your Twin for a Rear-Drive Hatch With a Hyundai Badge?
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No, I like the coupe.	10	66.67%
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