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Old 10-01-2016, 10:08 PM   #3081
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I think TFL just grabbed any random Toyota Person to explain the car, don't believe me watch another one of their vids, they usually just grab someone random,I've never seen them have the actual designer or Engineer or PR person talking.

It's like grabbing the concierge at a Toyota Dealer,the person they pay to pick up phones and then expecting them to give a full Engineering style explanation of say the Prius Prime Drive train system. I'm sure some people can give good information, but few can. Many will prolly stumble in front of the camera, it's not easy!
That Toyota rep has been in more than one FR-S video, IIRC. The real complaint is with the "vent". They forgot to open the holes on mine.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:13 PM   #3082
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Give him a break guys, he was likely brief in a text that was translated in Japanese on the spot.
Even if that was true,he should realized that there is no way that these "vents" play any significant role in controlling body roll. That either he misunderstood, or they gave him some nonsensical marketing bullcrap to sell.

I understand why they do this, the changes to the car are minimal. But these claims are really too much.

Funny by the way, how some reviewers say there is a huge difference compared to earlier models (yeah, your butt dyno can detect a 5hp difference, and you can feel the difference in smoothness/graininess/whatever, all compared to a car that you drove for an hour 2 years earlier in a different place). And other say they can't feel even the slightest difference.

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I think TFL just grabbed any random Toyota Person to explain the car, don't believe me watch another one of their vids, they usually just grab someone random.
I don't think so. The same guy is Javier Mota's video. The same car (or one with a very similar license number) as in this video is in TestDrivenTV's video. Javier Mota and and Redline Reviews both say the test was in Ojai, CA. All four videos were published between 9/23 and 9/29. Meaning the guy was likely running an organized press event for youtube reviewers in Ojai. He should have been prepared better.
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Old 10-01-2016, 10:22 PM   #3083
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Well that's a whole different story, with the vents and I agree with you.

I'm just trying to explain the details and how he was kinda put on the spot it seems.

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I don't think so. The same guy is Javier Mota's video. The same car (or one with a very similar license number) as in this video is in TestDrivenTV's video. Javier Mota and and Redline Reviews both say the test was in Ojai, CA. All four videos were published between 9/23 and 9/29. Meaning the guy was likely running an organized press event for youtube reviewers in Ojai. He should have been prepared better.
Agree with you there too, and yes he was there running it.

I was totally not wandering around there doing work or anything that day in Ojai too
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Agree with you there too, and yes he was there running it.

I was totally not wandering around there doing work or anything that day in Ojai too

Haha, I should have paid more attention to who I am replying to
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Funny by the way, how some reviewers say there is a huge difference compared to earlier models (yeah, your butt dyno can detect a 5hp difference, and you can feel the difference in smoothness/graininess/whatever, all compared to a car that you drove for an hour 2 years earlier in a different place). And other say they can't feel even the slightest difference.

You're right it is funny! On the review observation, some of the journalist own the FRS( infact the product person owns a 13 FRS iirc). If you like a clear review that is different I suggest watching ones that advertise they own the car like Everyday driver they own a Orange FRS I think they'll test the new car soon maybe I hope so. I can't talk about other outfits, but for Redline we definitely don't get cars for an hour or two. We had a series Blue, and a hyper blue for two weeks, I drove a 14 Monogram before the purchase of my 17 BRZ for about a week, and while the 17 BRZ was being filmed I drove a 15 BRZ around. I even made a small video in the thread 15 vs 17 All the information was given to the editor, before he goes off to talk about it. Also as an owner I can tell you there is a difference between the two.
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How would a functional vent help body roll? Maybe he meant it being solid and non functional helped body roll because it's more solid ;-)
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Old 10-01-2016, 11:20 PM   #3087
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for Redline we definitely don't get cars for an hour or two.

Yes, your review looks solid. I was mostly talking about fastlane's and testdriventv's videos.
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I need to learn how to produce video, as I've had mine for about three weeks. I was able to do a 360 degree barrel roll the other day because of the vents.
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I need to learn how to produce video, as I've had mine for about three weeks. I was able to do a 360 degree barrel roll the other day because of the vents.
So yours work like... the space shuttles? I think I might need an upgrade
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So is the new intake manifold a direct replacement for the older models or is there more to it?
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Here's my solution to the armrest problem:

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This cost about $7.00 shipped.
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This cost about $7.00 shipped.
Not the greatest video of all time but the content is gangster af. Great tip I'll be sure to remember that
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