If you ever wondered about safety of the BRZ

[surfwaxsmitty]

the windshield glass didnt even crack!! wow!

[mdm]

Originally Posted by guybo

One thing that drives me nuts is when someone gets a huge assed car/truck and proclaims- this is the SAFEST car on the road! Look how much steel is around you! I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those little cars, they are death traps.

DESIGN is where safety comes from, not steel. Some of the least safe cars in history have been huge cars because they are designed poorly. You can point to stats to these "bigger is safer" crowd and they will give you the deer-in-the-deadlights stare. Subaru makes small but safe cars and have for many years.

It's not that simple, and there are many aspects to vehicle safety. Yes, many trucks or SUVs are (or were) unsafe, prone to rollovers, no proper protection of the occupant area, etc.

On the other hand, if a lighter/smaller vehicle collides with a heavier one, occupants of the former always have relative disadvantage. That's pure physics.

Another aspect is that many large vehicles have their bumpers far to high to provide protection for occupants of smaller vehicles. It's semi trailers, many large trucks and delivery trucks, school buses, raised pickups, some SUVs.

If you rear-end them even in a well designed car, chances are that you are screwed because all your crumple zones will underride the large vehicle's bumper and the main hit will be on your A pillars, windshield, and face.

[Kostamojen]

Never once concerned about the saftey. Subaru's have been building some of the best designed in terms of saftey cars on the road for the last 15+ years. The twins are no different.

[Synkopy]

Yeah definitely. As much damage as my front end took. It wasn't leaking any fluids and the cabin was completely intact.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Synkopy

Yeah definitely. As much damage as my front end took. It wasn't leaking any fluids and the cabin was completely intact.

I am going to take a brief moment to preach one of my common sermons based upon this post!

Take a look at these hoods and see what is in common.





Notice how they are all bent in exactly the same spot with the front folded down?
That is the engineered buckle points at work. DON'T mess with them no matter how bad you want that vent cut right there! Also be cautious of knock off fiberglass or fake carbon fiber hoods since they do not have buckle points and in the event of a crash can end up intact in your back seat. Even if you were in the way.

[guybo]

To that same point, don't think about using hood risers. They defeat the engineering under the hood that makes the hood buckle and not rise up, go through the glass and behead the driver.

[darthpnoy1984]

I wouldn't be surprised for the twins that have been totaled over a decent amount of them are bought back on the road. That's the testament of how durable this car is.


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[Re_Invention]

Originally Posted by mdm

It's not that simple, and there are many aspects to vehicle safety. Yes, many trucks or SUVs are (or were) unsafe, prone to rollovers, no proper protection of the occupant area, etc.

On the other hand, if a lighter/smaller vehicle collides with a heavier one, occupants of the former always have relative disadvantage. That's pure physics.

Another aspect is that many large vehicles have their bumpers far to high to provide protection for occupants of smaller vehicles. It's semi trailers, many large trucks and delivery trucks, school buses, raised pickups, some SUVs.

If you rear-end them even in a well designed car, chances are that you are screwed because all your crumple zones will underride the large vehicle's bumper and the main hit will be on your A pillars, windshield, and face.

Bingo.

Any modern car is 'safe' relative to history. Air bags, sophisticated crumple zones, 'smarter' seat belts and accident avoidance systems (autonomous braking for the win!) see to that but they are still playing with the rules of basic physics, just optimizing every layer possible until the inevitable energy gets to you (or leaves you?). It may have been on this forum that I read about the Mercedes sonic trauma prevention system. I think it's the E-Class emits are loud pulse prior to imminent collision to brace your ear drums and protect your hearing from the bang of the crash. Trippy.

But rules is rules, and might has right. I'll put my family in a 2013 5,000 lb Tundra than a 2017 2,800 lb BRZ if they are both heading towards one another at 65 mph.

That being said, I, too, think Subaru's in general have a higher degree of intelligent safety design in their chassis and are built are more 'real life' scenarios than simply passing with the high test scores on standardized safety exams.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

I wouldn't be surprised for the twins that have been totaled over a decent amount of them are bought back on the road. That's the testament of how durable this car is.


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Case in point:



My once totaled car is living a full life as a (future) Spec86 car. All for the low price of about $3500. That includes buy back from insurance, and all the repairs.

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[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by Guff

Case in point:



My once totaled car is living a full life as a (future) Spec86 car. All for the low price of about $3500. That includes buy back from insurance, and all the repairs.

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Amen to that and of course B is for Build YouTube Videos, no wonder the salvage auctions for the Twins in dollar value has gone up.

[Maps316]

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers

If you ever wondered about safety of the BRZ.

No but I've got doubts about the drivers now...

To that I will say that in my case, I was bounced off the road by an SUV into the SUV in the pic and not by my own driving. One issue that plagued the BRZ was not being seen by bigger cars :/

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by Maps316

To that I will say that in my case, I was bounced off the road by an SUV into the SUV in the pic and not by my own driving. One issue that plagued the BRZ was not being seen by bigger cars :/

It makes you a lot more defensive driver than most cars I've owned.

[Maps316]

Originally Posted by Norville Rogers

Any pictures of the "bounce" damage as there are only ones of a plain front right side shunt into the rear of another vehicle.

You hit a parked car didn't you?

Yes I did hit a parked car. I have to look through some old photos to find it. It has been over 3 years after all. I pulled these photos off my facebook

[Maps316]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

It makes you a lot more defensive driver than most cars I've owned.

Absolutely true, my driving has since changed dramatically, I honestly plan 2 -3 back up escapes whendriving