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Aki · 02-28-2011, 09:30 PM

It's AWD. No such thing as symmetrical RWD since you don't need an additional driveshaft.

This still differentiates it from RWD-based AWD cars like the GT-R though, since that isn't symmetrical.

ichitaka05 · 02-28-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki

It's AWD. No such thing as symmetrical RWD since you don't need an additional driveshaft.

This still differentiates it from RWD-based AWD cars like the GT-R though, since that isn't symmetrical.

You know that MR counts as RWD right?

Dimman · 02-28-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki

It's AWD. No such thing as symmetrical RWD since you don't need an additional driveshaft.

This still differentiates it from RWD-based AWD cars like the GT-R though, since that isn't symmetrical.

It can't be AWD using "Subaru's signature Symmetrical AWD system."

In this pic it shows the transmission relative to the front wheels pretty well. It is about 6-8 inches too far back to use their traditional system. (The front axles stick out of the forward part of the transmission, just behind the bell housing.)

Subaru AWD transmission:

It's probably a reference to the chassis architecture.

NESW20 · 02-28-2011, 10:49 PM

i do see variable cam timing systems on intake and exhaust cams, but that's been kind of assumed since its inception. hopefully they can use cam timing to eliminate the need for a separate EGR system.

Aki · 03-01-2011, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

It can't be AWD using "Subaru's signature Symmetrical AWD system."

<snip>

It's probably a reference to the chassis architecture.

Given how stuff like that would probably go through multiple passes between Subaru of America and Fuji Heavy Industries in Japan, I'm doubtful there'd be such a giant typo like that. Regardless, we don't know whether it's just a different AWD drivetrain, so at this point it seems premature to conclude it's a typo or error.

Matador · 03-01-2011, 01:54 AM

OMFG would everybody just give the awd thing a rest? It will be RWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dimman · 03-01-2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aki

Given how stuff like that would probably go through multiple passes between Subaru of America and Fuji Heavy Industries in Japan, I'm doubtful there'd be such a giant typo like that. Regardless, we don't know whether it's just a different AWD drivetrain, so at this point it seems premature to conclude it's a typo or error.

Subaru only has one AWD system. And the pictures don't lie. No way to use their current AWD system with the new engine and transmission placement.

4agze · 03-01-2011, 02:27 AM

I just like how the engine sits real low this will be a great car

ichitaka05 · 03-01-2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

Subaru only has one AWD system. And the pictures don't lie. No way to use their current AWD system with the new engine and transmission placement.

there were 2 other AWD system Subie did have... but I'm not go into it, cuz it make this thread more confusing.

70NYD · 03-01-2011, 03:03 AM

Uumm fail much? Ofcourse you can have different length driveshafts for each wheel, nowhere does it say that the diff is mounted central on every car with identical length (ie simetrical) stub axles..
What this means is that the diff is mounted along the central plane of the car and it's symmetrical in the rear end for better weight distribution, something this car IS all about

Dimman · 03-01-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

there were 2 other AWD system Subie did have... but I'm not go into it, cuz it make this thread more confusing.

Ahem... 'has' (present tense) and 'current'... (If you want to install a Loyale or BRAT AWD system in your Impreza be my guest.)

NESW20 · 03-01-2011, 03:51 AM

Subaru still currently has like 3 different AWD systems. none of which will be on their RWD sports car.

Cunnart · 03-01-2011, 06:09 AM

It looks very large, and I'm not impressed at all by the macpherson struts.

AaronCompNetSys · 03-01-2011, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dimman

That shifter linkage doesn't look like the Aisin style that I'm used to seeing....thoughts? Maybe its an in-house?

02-28-2011, 10:49 PM	#46
NESW20 2.1L 3SGTE Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: MR2 Turbo & Tacoma Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 1,248 Thanks: 29 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i do see variable cam timing systems on intake and exhaust cams, but that's been kind of assumed since its inception. hopefully they can use cam timing to eliminate the need for a separate EGR system. __________________ 1991 MR2 Turbo - 2.1L high compression stroker 3SGTE 2006 Tacoma 4x4 TRD Off Road - All-Pro front bumper, Old Man Emu shocks, Old Man Emu HD front coils, All-Pro leafs 1990 240SX Coupe - sold 2008 Civic Si Sedan

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70NYD Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Drives: RX8 S1 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 49 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Uumm fail much? Ofcourse you can have different length driveshafts for each wheel, nowhere does it say that the diff is mounted central on every car with identical length (ie simetrical) stub axles.. What this means is that the diff is mounted along the central plane of the car and it's symmetrical in the rear end for better weight distribution, something this car IS all about __________________

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