Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[jawn]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Take a look at this pic of your real Army. No fucking Captain Americas to be seen. Just young well trained NORMAL people!

Everybody fits in medium regs.

[Andrew025]

Jesus, you guys are still talking about this?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by jawn

Everybody fits in medium regs.

For a stronger example lets take a look at some highly decorated Special Forces NCOs.
One, maybe two, would get cast in a movie as Special Forces the rest would get laughed out of the try outs for not fitting the Hollywood mythos.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Jesus, you guys are still talking about this?

Yep and now Ashi went too far!

I hope to see his enlistment documents by next week.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep and now Ashi went to far!

I hope to see his enlistment documents by next week.

Apparently I'm more capable than most of our fucking military. I know some soldiers... They aren't confidence inspiring. And I'm sure as fuck not taking orders from some scrub who went to officers school. I could have joined up out of school but I didn't cuz I thought it would be a cluster fuck. And I was absolutely right.

I already said I was wrong. Why isn't that good enough

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I think we already clarified that I don't have a problem with female soldiers other than their physical capabilities. They simply cannot be as strong as a man is capable of being. If they can't "pull their weight" they shouldn't be soldiers, male or female.

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I think we are very much alike on this. I expect soldiers and cops to be in premium condition all day every day with very strict requirements that you either meet or you gtfo. I don't care about gender, gay/straight, color, whatever... you can do the job or you can't. I expect all soldiers to far exceed normal civilians in physical condition, capabilities, and combat training. Maybe I've played too many video games but I expect each and every person fighting for our flag to be a total badass

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

But if you can't carry your share of gear or a wounded comrade, you can't do the job. I had an AK and a 12ga. There isn't a reason a woman couldn't be effective with either. But carrying 400 pounds of gear and casualty isn't something a 120lb woman can do affectively. Additionally, in hand to hand combat(which I realize is very rare), a woman will be easily outpaced by a man. Yes yes I know men have balls she can kick but that's not an affective "works every time" strategy... If they block it, have gear in the way or otherwise that woman would now be fucked. If she can pass the exact same tests as a man, then she is in. If she can't... gtfo

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Sometimes it is. And it's the "sometimes" that are most important. I'm not seeing why everyone seems to want to pick away at my point here. I already specified some women can do the job and some men can't. Most of the time it doesn't matter. But the truth is women CANNOT be as strong as a similarly trained man. Testosterone and genetics determine how strong you can get and 99.999% of women are absolutely incapable of matching a man physically. I know everyone wants to have that story that defies the norm: your daughter carried 70% of her body weight, you know someone who's better than the men in the squad etc... But we aren't talking about exceptions. Look at women's weight lifting. They may be the strongest in the world. Stronger than me or you. But they are still weaker than male lifters.

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I have none. Does that make my point any less valid? Does that make you feel superior?>>> If one, male or female, cannot meet strict physical requirements they should not be in the service. If you are on a combat zone and cannot carry a fallen team mate, with or without gear, you should not be in the service. These requirements should be the same for both sexes. What's so fucking hard to accept about this?

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Ok so my romantic vision of an army made up of capable soldiers instead of pussies and weaklings is silly and inaccurate. I was wrong. You guys fucking happy now? My bad for assuming soldiers weren't a bunch of pampered bitches sitting on a **** all fucking day

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Apparently I'm more capable than most of our fucking military. I know some soldiers... They aren't confidence inspiring. And I'm sure as fuck not taking orders from some scrub who went to officers school. I could have joined up out of school but I didn't cuz I thought it would be a cluster fuck. And I was absolutely right.

I already said I was wrong. Why isn't that good enough

No, no you didn't you just amended it a bit. You have a completely unrealistic view of what is required. This whole "everybody needs to be able to run around carrying their downed buddies" is very Blackhawk down and Forest Gump but not real life. I tried to point out some realities (not even posted in response to you) in a very calm manner and you freaked.

Now you have demonstrated you would last about 20 minutes in the military because the mental stress alone would wipe you out.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Teseo

And which is "better soldier"? Seal or Spetsnaz
No teamwork, just a 1 on 1 battle

Heck, in my prime, I wouldn't have wanted to go up against a well trained either one.

I've haven't personally known any Seals but I have trained with a few Special Forces soldiers and some of them have an engrained killer instinct.


humfrz

[Cole]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Heck, in my prime, I wouldn't have wanted to go up against a well trained either one.

I've haven't personally known any Seals but I have trained with a few Special Forces soldiers and some of them have an engrained killer instinct.


humfrz

I watched some special forces guys in Grayling, Mi. firing machine guns out of helicopters many years back. Dudes were shooting better from the chopper than I do from the ground with an MG.

Then there was the time I walked around a corner into an SF guy on a base up here. I stammered out a "sorry", and he could clearly see the horror on my face as he laughed and said "no worries".

I also have an ex member of an airborne Royal Marine regiment serving in my regiment currently. Holy shit is that guy intense. The little tid bits I've picked up from him over the years are amazing. Definitely made me a far better soldier for having him been in command of me for the first 3 or 4 years of my career.

[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Portland or surrounding cities/outskirts seems pretty decent. That all depends on if you want to move out of state though.

I technically live in a rural area, but it's like 10 minutes away from the next town. Bought my house for pretty cheap compared to what it's worth now though.

Yeah I'll look into down there once the time comes to actually buy. Really enjoy the area the handful of times I've visited. Though as a tourist.

Originally Posted by humfrz

I'm ah feared that Seattle is blowing another housing bubble ....... it should pop within your 3 year time frame.

However, by that time, you should have enough money put aside to afford a house in Pierce County. That would give you about 3 hours a day to drive your car ...


humfrz

I'm hoping for another bubble to pop! I know its a selfish reason but.. gotta be greedy once in a while.

Wouldn't mind the traffic that bad actually. My boss lives in Tacoma and he says its ok until he reaches halfway between Tukwila and downtown Seattle.

Originally Posted by Cole

I know that feel bro. Looking at housing prices has gotten me down lately. To get something affordable, I'd have to live between a 2 and 3 hour commute from any major city.

Maybe it's time to go back to school and scrape by for another couple years...

Guess its that bad up there too? Jeeze...

Have a small feeling to go back to school but I wiped out my debt few months back. Don't want that monkey hanging over my shoulder again, least for a while.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Apparently I'm more capable than most of our fucking military. I know some soldiers... They aren't confidence inspiring. And I'm sure as fuck not taking orders from some scrub who went to officers school. I could have joined up out of school but I didn't cuz I thought it would be a cluster fuck. And I was absolutely right.

I already said I was wrong. Why isn't that good enough

That alone, would severely limit your military career.


humfrz

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by Cole

I watched some special forces guys in Grayling, Mi. firing machine guns out of helicopters many years back. Dudes were shooting better from the chopper than I do from the ground with an MG.

Then there was the time I walked around a corner into an SF guy on a base up here. I stammered out a "sorry", and he could clearly see the horror on my face as he laughed and said "no worries".

I also have an ex member of an airborne Royal Marine regiment serving in my regiment currently. Holy shit is that guy intense. The little tid bits I've picked up from him over the years are amazing. Definitely made me a far better soldier for having him been in command of me for the first 3 or 4 years of my career.

Shooting a moving target is hard. Shooting a moving target while moving is exponentially harder.

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[soulreapersteve]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Shooting a moving target is hard. Shooting a moving target while moving is exponentially harder.

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Wait, so are you telling me I can't noscope360headshot someone from across the map with a sniper rifle... while jumping off a building at the same time???


(sorry, I'm a bit hungry right now)

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by soulreapersteve

Wait, so are you telling me I can't noscope360headshot someone from across the map with a sniper rifle... while jumping off a building at the same time???


(sorry, I'm a bit hungry right now)

Never say never, but the odds are probably better of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery.

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[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by Teseo

And which is "better soldier"? Seal or Spetsnaz
No teamwork, just a 1 on 1 battle

You know, I think ultimate warrior actually did that one. Damn spetznaz bastard won.