NorCal (Bay Area) OFF-TOPIC Chat Thread

[PMok]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

You forgot "do not detail/wash it"

yeah that one's not as important to me ... and when I bought from Colorado, they said they had to wash and inspect it before shipping it to me on a truck, to ensure there was no damage before it went out. If you can convince local dealer to leave it be and take it home as is, more power to ya.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

You forgot "do not detail/wash it"

I thought that was the instructions given to you by the dealer?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

The tech who ever does the pre-delivery inspection can get fired if they don't install the front plate since it's mandated by the manufacturer (if the owner tries and successfully uses the "the dealership didn't install it" reason when pulled over).

[Clipdat]

Lol, the year+ of grime currently on my car is sitting on top of a paint coating, so ideally once I do finally wash it, it will all come right off and my clear coat will be fine.

Originally Posted by finch1750

I thought that was the instructions given to you by the dealer?

[BlaineWasHere]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

So... I just got a call from my Ford dealer that my Focus RS order is coming up and getting ready to be added to the manufacturing cue in Germany, meaning my deposit check will be cashed and applied to the purchase of the car. Should I cancel or go ahead with it?



I haven't even driven the thing and all this hype has me a bit worried. Its kinda like our cars 3 years ago, all the hype inflated prices then once it dies down, issues get more visible, reviewers and owners get over themselves and actually start criticizing the car then dealers can't even get rid of them (although I don't think it will be a problem since its a limited run).



In an ideal world, I'd keep the BRZ, but I'll be needing a larger car soon.

There is two at autox already. I would have told you had I known you'd ordered it. One of the owners would have let you take a quick drive around on the road knowing you've ordered one.

Also California law you can always get the deposit back Arabs point if you don't buy the car.


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[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

Also California law you can always get the deposit back Arabs point if you don't buy the car.

Yeah, they can't legally keep your money. It's basically a first right of refusal and 100% refundable.

[Tenino]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

The tech who ever does the pre-delivery inspection can get fired if they don't install the front plate since it's mandated by the manufacturer (if the owner tries and successfully uses the "the dealership didn't install it" reason when pulled over).

I remember purchasing the GTI & WRX and refused installation of the front plate, the dealership had me sign a waiver/document to cover their end. They do a great job hiding it in the mound of paperwork you sign off on

If you are pulled over for a Fix-it front plate and pull the "dealership didn't install it" officers who are up to date on the law know you signed off on the paperwork.

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ftp://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/..._chaptered.pdf

V C Section 11713.17 Front License Plate Bracket
Front License Plate Bracket
11713.17. (a) Following the retail sale or lease of a motor vehicle for which the department issues two license plates, a dealer may not deliver the motor vehicle unless either of the following occurs:

(1) The motor vehicle is equipped with a bracket or other means of securing a front license plate.

(2) The dealer obtains a signed written acknowledgment from the person taking delivery of the motor vehicle acknowledging both of the following:

(A) The person expressly refused installation of a bracket or other means of securing the front license plate.

(B) The person understands that California law requires a license plate to be displayed from and securely fastened to the front of the motor vehicle and that the hardware necessary to securely fasten the front plate is available from the dealer.

(b) A manufacturer or distributor may not sell or distribute in this state a new motor vehicle for which the department issues two license plates, unless that motor vehicle is equipped or provided with a bracket or other means of securing the license plates.

[PMok]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

The tech who ever does the pre-delivery inspection can get fired if they don't install the front plate since it's mandated by the manufacturer (if the owner tries and successfully uses the "the dealership didn't install it" reason when pulled over).

I'm pretty sure the waiver form is a viable option... bought my last 2 cars without front plate installed.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by Tenino

I remember purchasing the GTI & WRX and refused installation of the front plate, the dealership had me sign a waiver/document to cover their end. They do a great job hiding it in the mound of paperwork you sign off on

If you are pulled over for a Fix-it front plate and pull the "dealership didn't install it" officers who are up to date on the law know you signed off on the paperwork.

_________________________________________________
ftp://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/03-04/bill/..._chaptered.pdf

V C Section 11713.17 Front License Plate Bracket
Front License Plate Bracket
11713.17. (a) Following the retail sale or lease of a motor vehicle for which the department issues two license plates, a dealer may not deliver the motor vehicle unless either of the following occurs:

(1) The motor vehicle is equipped with a bracket or other means of securing a front license plate.

(2) The dealer obtains a signed written acknowledgment from the person taking delivery of the motor vehicle acknowledging both of the following:

(A) The person expressly refused installation of a bracket or other means of securing the front license plate.

(B) The person understands that California law requires a license plate to be displayed from and securely fastened to the front of the motor vehicle and that the hardware necessary to securely fasten the front plate is available from the dealer.

(b) A manufacturer or distributor may not sell or distribute in this state a new motor vehicle for which the department issues two license plates, unless that motor vehicle is equipped or provided with a bracket or other means of securing the license plates.

Originally Posted by PMok

I'm pretty sure the waiver form is a viable option... bought my last 2 cars without front plate installed.

Time for me to draw up some forms.

[BigFatFlip]

Haven't decided quite yet but I think I may just cancel it and see if I can get one next year.

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Go to Ford Fairfield. They're part of my auto group. We don't do "market adjustments" and will either sell limited edition cars at MSRP or 25/50 bucks off.

Hmmm maybe I can hit em up in the future. Anyone in particular you think can help me?

Originally Posted by PMok

Nooooooo...

wait, does that mean I can consider rocking gold wheels soon?

Sure, just no red mud flaps! Funny enough I'm already looking for gold wheels and red mud flaps to fit the RS lol. I'll still stick around for the drives, I'll just be "that guy" in the back of the pack

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

There is two at autox already. I would have told you had I known you'd ordered it. One of the owners would have let you take a quick drive around on the road knowing you've ordered one.

Ya, that's the thing. Dealers who do have them don't want test drives since its either somebody's already or want to keep miles super low.

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

Also California law you can always get the deposit back Arabs point if you don't buy the car.

WAT? lol

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

The tech who ever does the pre-delivery inspection can get fired if they don't install the front plate since it's mandated by the manufacturer (if the owner tries and successfully uses the "the dealership didn't install it" reason when pulled over).

Shit. The last two cars I bought I didn't even ask. The no plate installed waiver was given as part of the routine. I didn't even know you had to ask them not to install until reading about it on this forum lol

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Shit. The last two cars I bought I didn't even ask. The no plate installed waiver was given as part of the routine. I didn't even know you had to ask them not to install until reading about it on this forum lol

I know I never gave any waiver forms for the cars that didn't have any plates. Lol. Maybe I'm giving too much credit to people thinking they won't blame the dealership if they're pulled over without a front plate.

[PMok]

Originally Posted by BigFatFlip

Sure, just no red mud flaps! Funny enough I'm already looking for gold wheels and red mud flaps to fit the RS lol. I'll still stick around for the drives, I'll just be "that guy" in the back of the pack

For sure, we continue to welcome friends who've moved on to other cars or want to bring their other cars for whatever reason... sometimes they change their minds and come back to the BRZ/86 fold...

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by PMok

For sure, we continue to welcome friends who've moved on to other cars or want to bring their other cars for whatever reason... sometimes they change their minds and come back to the BRZ/86 fold...

You never know. N.O.B. was testing the shooting brake at Suzuka (iirc) so maybe they are testing the feasibility of its handling. Family friendly version coming soon @BigFatFlip