FT-86 II Concept Photos from Geneva!! Motherload of photos.

[ryun84]

On this forum you learn quickly not to take things personally. LOL!

[Dragonitti]

The new tease pics = BAD ASS! I would hope that they don't change anything being so close to rumored production dates. That Bitch is sexy from what I'm seeing right now.

Don't see the price range projected though. Looks like the price structure went up, unless they trying to pull off a "GTR" effect on a lower scale (GTR effect as in its a fraction the cost of other true supercars, but has been known to compete with them).

[Zorro]

Awesome, I can't wait!

[Snaps]

^ I really hope they're not trying to do a GTR thing. The GTR is a great car in itself, but because they were doing it on a (tight) budget, parts were skimped on, and that has led to pretty major problems down the line, i don't want the FT86 to go anywhere near that line....

[#87]

CF, flashy wheels, huge drilled rotors - make me worry how soon this will come out. The overall shape has me hopeful that it is more production ready and these other things I mention are easy swaps for a production vehicle. I hope they have made some proper progress on the interior as well.

Can't wait until tomorrow.

[Zorro]

Originally Posted by Snaps

^ I really hope they're not trying to do a GTR thing. The GTR is a great car in itself, but because they were doing it on a (tight) budget, parts were skimped on, and that has led to pretty major problems down the line, i don't want the FT86 to go anywhere near that line....

nor do I. (although I think the 2012 model is a huge step up)

I want this car to be an affordable sports car just like you. Would be great if they had an N/A 200 hp ish at about 25k, and a boosted version around 300 hp/tq starting at maybe 7-8k more. With tons of options like BKK, different gearing, suspension upgrades, interior options like gps or sound systems, etc.

If its all this, easily modded and at 2600-2700 lbs Toyota will have a winner!

[Jordo!]

Originally Posted by Rickster

Hey guys, this is my first post. Been a lurker for quite a while though!

So I've been working in the car industry for a couple years now, unfortunately for one of Toyota's competitors, but a thought I'd share a few of my opinions with you all who care to read. Now again, I'm stating these are my OPINIONS, so I'm not starting any rumors!!

1) To figure out the price of the vehicle, let's first figure out who the competitors for this vehicle are. Toyota used to have a Celica, and MR2, and a Supra as we all know. All 3 in different segments and different competitors. I believe the FT-86 is going to be a 370z competitor, a Hyundai Genesis Coupe, and RX-8. The price range for these vehicles are $22k - $29k. I can see the base FT-86 starting at around 23-24k, this would be the version which comes with 17" wheels, maybe a standard CD player, regular sound system, and most importantly, a different motor, maybe 225-245hp. Now I see the top of the line (the version we will see in Geneva and the NY Auto Show) being the $29k starting price version. The rumor was the car will be priced under 30k, this is right, but it's common in the automotive industry to have a low starting price but it can quickly go up depending on trim/options. Look at the 370z, it's a sub-30k vehicle, but if you get the top of the line trim, you're looking at 40k. So bottom line, I believe this vehicle will start around 23k for the base - but if you're looking for the top of the line, 300hp version, and a few amenities, expect to spend about $32-34k.

2) The carbon fiber. It's beautiful. BUT, don't expect it to be on the production version IMO. I believe the car will not have any exterior carbon fiber, it's simply not cost effective enough for a vehicle around 30k. I believe these carbon fiber accessories will however be offered if you want to customize your vehicle. Scion is a highly customizable brand, these items could be on the vehicle to test/gauge opinions of the public in order to determine if they would be suitable for an accessories line. Think of it as the F-Sport for the Lexus IS series.

3) Size/Weight. To most of us, this is the 1st/2nd most important aspect, with emphasis on the weight. Originally it was said it would be around the size of an S2000 (162.7 inches). I believe since then, the vehicle has increased in length by 2-3 inches based on pictures seen. I'd expect the size to be closer to the 370z (167.2 inches). My guess, expect the car to be around 165.5 inches long. As far as weight is concerned now, for comparison sake, the 370z is 3,232lbs but 332hp. That's about 9.73lbs per horsepower. While I'm not solely basing my weight estimate on this math, I think if the 370z is a direct competitor, the weight for this vehicle, if 300hp, would be around 2950lbs. Essentially, just shy of 3000lb.

Again, these are just opinions.. Thoughts?

From the beginning I felt this would be a 370Z competitor -- FWIW, I agree 100% with your analysis and your predictions on the various tiers.

Guess we'll find out sooner or later...

[nate89]

Well it looks like it has LEDs in the front for either driving lights of turn signals, and to me that puts it closer to production than the previous version. Hopefully all they will do is replace the CF parts with molded plastic, replace the race components with everyday components and it should be good to go.

Toyota, take note of my address, I expect to see one of these in my garage by the end of the year

[Hachiroku]

Will have pics of the fully unveiled FT-86 II concept in no more than 4.5 hours!

[4agze]

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

Will have pics of the fully unveiled FT-86 II concept in no more than 4.5 hours!

waiting dont forget the interior pls

[cyde01]

[nate89]

Originally Posted by Hachiroku

Will have pics of the fully unveiled FT-86 II concept in no more than 4.5 hours!

Dude you rock!

It's like Christmas Eve. I want to stay up cause I'm so excited, but I have to go to sleep...

[Matador]

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[VenomRush]

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