2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I do not disagree with that. But it wasn't.

Well only took them 4 years to figure it out as they say better late than never

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

Well only took them 4 years to figure it out as they say better late than never

Ya but if Scion still existed it would still be an FRS. It is only their demise that got the rebadge. Whether we like the decision to make it a Scion here or not that was the way they decided to go and they would not be changing that just because a small group complained.
The whole "it didn't sell because it was a Scion" thing baffles me since the BRZ sales and the worldwide 86 sales numbers do not look any better. It hasn't sold massive numbers because it was never intended to sell massive numbers not because it was a Scion.
Let's be honest here, just how many people would have bought it if it was as common as a Camry?


I can't wait to see what the complaints will be when the new trim levels come out and are priced the same as the Toyota 86 in the rest of the world. The FRS cost less for a reason.

[Zaku]

I don't know why the upload quality was so bad, but it's new from last night
here

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG0TkHbbvJk"]2017 Toyota 86 preview video - YouTube[/ame]

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Zaku

I don't know why the upload quality was so bad, but it's new from last night
here

These Japanese and Australian reviews are great for the basics but people need to keep in mind such things as the gauge info center and extras may not be as shown (or exist) on ours when they get here.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

These Japanese and Australian reviews are great for the basics but people need to keep in mind such things as the gauge info center and extras may not be as shown (or exist) on ours when they get here.

It seems that the things US trim one is missing are:

The High End Seats (US 86 has seats from the old 2014 ish GT trim seats, they have a cloth mesh center, and some Alcantara bits, with the space invader center)

Guage Dash LCD info(Us have the same as 2016)

HVAC(not offered in the US unless special model TRD/Monogram, or you get a BRZ)
Spoiler
Fog light(might be a dealer option in the USA)

The Right side of the steering wheel Buttons(what ever those are)

Red Stitching (I think it depends on the option you choose, some of the new GT has orange stitching,Red, Grey)

Trying to think what else, I'm unsure if all models come with Sach dampers, or it's just PP models.

[Lantana frs]

Funny thing about the frs. Yeah, more torque would be nice but when I jump in mine after driving a company vehicle the damn thing makes sense. And truthfully mine is rather tail happy with just a tune and power blocks. I understand why Toyota wasn't shooting for big dyno numbers.

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ya but if Scion still existed it would still be an FRS. It is only their demise that got the rebadge. Whether we like the decision to make it a Scion here or not that was the way they decided to go and they would not be changing that just because a small group complained.
The whole "it didn't sell because it was a Scion" thing baffles me since the BRZ sales and the worldwide 86 sales numbers do not look any better. It hasn't sold massive numbers because it was never intended to sell massive numbers not because it was a Scion.
Let's be honest here, just how many people would have bought it if it was as common as a Camry?


I can't wait to see what the complaints will be when the new trim levels come out and are priced the same as the Toyota 86 in the rest of the world. The FRS cost less for a reason.

The lack of power and pricing of course the number 1,2 most common complaints you'll notice at automotive forums or mag thread comments.

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

The lack of power and pricing of course the number 1,2 most common complaints you'll notice at automotive forums or mag thread comments.

Add terrible interior for the price to that complaint list too. You'll hear that all the time In reviews.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Zaku

It seems that the things US trim one is missing are:

The High End Seats (US 86 has seats from the old 2014 ish GT trim seats, they have a cloth mesh center, and some Alcantara bits, with the space invader center)

Guage Dash LCD info(Us have the same as 2016)

HVAC(not offered in the US unless special model TRD/Monogram, or you get a BRZ)
Spoiler
Fog light(might be a dealer option in the USA)

The Right side of the steering wheel Buttons(what ever those are)

Red Stitching (I think it depends on the option you choose, some of the new GT has orange stitching,Red, Grey)

Trying to think what else, I'm unsure if all models come with Sach dampers, or it's just PP models.

Right side, steering wheel buttons are for LCD screen controller.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Right side, steering wheel buttons are for LCD screen controller.

Is cruise still on the column then?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is cruise still on the column then?

That one IDK ... more like, I didn't care to ask lol

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

That one IDK ... more like, I didn't care to ask lol

It is important to me!

[darthpnoy1984]

Originally Posted by Zaku

Add terrible interior for the price to that complaint list too. You'll hear that all the time In reviews.

Interior is just downright silly it's not a Lexus or Porsche:


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by darthpnoy1984

Interior is just downright silly it's not a Lexus or Porsche:


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You ever see some older Porsche interiors. They are not even a Porsche in that department!