Two schools of thoughts Miata and 86

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by humfrz

There was this hippie girl named Babs that lived there and ........ oh, never mind ......


humfrz

Found her! Hippie life is apparently harder then you would think.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Now, if these were AWD I would totally agree that they would "need" more but they are not and as a RWD there is plenty to get the job done for the majority of the driving public.

Actually, first gen Impreza who had bout same spec as 86/BRZ (170hp/165tq w +-2800lbs) do very well in daily drive. Had a enough gut to zip through the street and did very well in autox and track. I didn't "need" more power... but of course, I "wanted" more power from my Impreza.

As for the OP, fast or slow opinion is individual opinion and it varies, there's no right answer to that. It's slow car to you doesn't mean, it's slow car to others. I'm not far off if I say, most owner doesn't use this car to full potential, but wanting more... BUT we see owner wrapping their car around pole/tree like burrito.

We read more about unhappy owners more than happy owner, cuz happy owners are too busy driving this car and having blast time.

Just my 2yen

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Found her! Hippie life is apparently harder then you would think.

Oh my, she did not age well .......


humfrz

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Tectoniic

http://jalopnik.com/i-hate-miatas-1785135853

This article is the closest I've ever come to registering on Jalopnik just to comment that I agree with it. Miatas are great cars for their intended purpose but for the love of god I do not want to hear about them anymore....

lol

stef must need the money for her porch to spin such a flimsy argument into that tryhard click bait.

tl;dr
no roof, no trunk, and it's too popular means she won't be a happy unique little snowflake in it.

The underlying gold of that article is that throughout she doesn't even question the fact that it's an awesome sports car. I mean, I didn't and likely won't buy one for the exact same reasons she "hates it" (except I like the looks), but then again I don't get paid by the click for what I write.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

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Your own build sort of shows that thought process since you consider it a "subtle yet fun street car" when it is anything but subtle (should be fun as hell though and it is nice work which I strongly applaud).

Current Modifications: ................

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DANG!, there @Apex-Apex ....... therein, with those modifications, lies the truth ......

You just done went and spoilt yourself ....

Sort of like back in the day, having a 283 cu. in. Chevrolet V-8, with a 2 barrel carburetor then putting on 2 - 4 barrel carburetors and a high lift cam and saying the pre-modded car didn't have enough power to get out of the way of itself ......


humfrz

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

But by using words such as "horrible" and "painful" for DD your are complaining.

I think the problem is that many expect it to be a highly capable race car that you can use on the streets when in fact it is a street car that can be used to race. These are two different priorities when being designed.

Your own build sort of shows that thought process since you consider it a "subtle yet fun street car" when it is anything but subtle (should be fun as hell though and it is nice work which I strongly applaud).

Current Modifications:

Exterior•Blitz Front Bumper
•JDM 86 Headlights
•Seibon Hood
•Seibon Trunk
•TRD Dry Carbon Fender Fin
•TRD Sideskirt
•TRD Roof Antenna
•Velox Rear Diffuser
•Tom's Taillight
•Voltex Type 7 Swan Neck 1700mm
•Beatrush Front Bumper Beam Brace

Engine:•Apexi Drop In Filter
•Tomei Equal Length Header
•JDL 3" Ultra Quiet overpipe and front pipe
•JDL 3" Catback
•Custom Setrab Oil Cooler
•Cusco Engine Mounts
•Raceng Cam Plate
•HKS v3 Supercharger
•HKS High Boost Pulley Kit
•Deatschwerks 750cc Injectors
•Deatschwerks 300C In Tank
•AEM 320LPH E85 Pump In Surge Tank
•Radium Fuel Surge Tank
•Radium Dual Catch Cans
•Koyo Aluminum Radiator
•Koyo Aluminum Fill Neck
•Samco Silicone Radiator Hose

Footwork•Brembo Clubsport BBK with 355mm Type 3 Rotors
•Brembo RE10 Compound
•Carbing Front Strut Bar with MCB brace
•Carbing Rear Strut Bar
•Racer X Fabrication Front Lower Control Arms
•SPL Rear Lower Control Arm
•SPL Bumpsteer Adjustable Tie Rods
•Cusco Differential Mount
•Cusco Transmission Mount Collar
•Cusco Engine Mount
•Perrin Shifter Bushing
•Whiteline 18mm Rear Sway Bar
•Password JDM Rear Spherical End Links
•JRZ RS Pro 2 Way
•Volk ZE40 18x10 +40 with 265/35/18 Bridgestone RE-71R

Interior•Defi ZD Clubsport
•Autopower 4 point modified by Kami Racing Service
•Schroth 6 point HANS Hybrid
•Recaro RS-G with ASM protector and belt guide
•JDM Rear Mirror
•Pioneer Appradio 4 SPH-DA120
•Bride FG Seat Rail
•Works Bell Steering Wheel Hub
•Nardi Steering Wheel 330MM Deep Corn

So yes, your car may be better at all things but that does not for one second make the stock/near stock version "horrible" or "painful" to drive daily no matter where you are.

If that is subtle my car is showroom stock

Originally Posted by VTEC

This car comes with such a nice manual gearbox I don't get why people don't like to downshift. I cruise in 6th gear at 2000 RPM at around 40 MPH all the time. There is just enough torque to hold your speed and nothing more. No passing power and that's fine. Because if I really need to get up and go, I clutch in, blip the throttle and do a 6 to 2 downshift and I'm gone. If I'm on the highway, then it's 6 to 3.

6-2? Holy crap. RPMs be like

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

The problem is the price..over $30K OTD with any kind of options. Thats a bit (quite a bit) much for how little car you get...

I'd guess most people buy Miatas precisely because of how little car you get for the money!

It's definitely not for everyone though, no matter how much "the answer is always Miata" crowd likes to think it is.

[NOHOME]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

Im REALLY liking this new gen ND Miata. Enough to seriously think about buying one. I test drove it last night and it is a freaking hoot!! Its definitely quicker from a standstill than an 86, handles, "gulp" as well if not better than an 86 and is a convertible. The problem is the price..over $30K OTD with any kind of options. Thats a bit (quite a bit) much for how little car you get...

Miata = 45k Canadian out the door
FRS was 32k Canadian out the door.

Nope. I like the Miata, but not that much.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I'd guess most people buy Miatas precisely because of how little car you get for the money!

It's definitely not for everyone though, no matter how much "the answer is always Miata" crowd likes to think it is.

you did that wrong! lol
M - Miata
I - Is
A - Always
T - The
A - Answer

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

you did that wrong! lol
M - Miata
I - Is
A - Always
T - The
A - Answer

mrs humfrz version:

M - my hair is always a mess

I - can't hear the music or anything you say

A - am I going to die in this topless thing today

T - that IS rain coming down ..... now put up the top

A - why aren't there ANY freeways where we go .. ??



humfrz

[FRSapex]

A Miata will naturally be perceived as faster when you drive with the top down.

I'm quite comfortable on my twitchy RD400. In part cuz I'm wearing a helmet. Not so much when I'm descending a steep mountain on my road race bicycle at a fraction of the RD's speed. Mostly cuz I can feel and hear the wind in my face.

Perception is reality.

[arrow34]

Originally Posted by NOHOME

Miata = 45k Canadian out the door
FRS was 32k Canadian out the door.

Nope. I like the Miata, but not that much.

But still would you buy the Miata if prices were closer? I wouldn't. But I don't like drop tops for everyday drivers. As a fun car for some events maybe. But not a daily driver.

[Th3rdSun]

I've hated the Miata from day one. There's nothing about the car that appeals to me. I would've rather have a Buick Reatta.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Th3rdSun

I've hated the Miata from day one. There's nothing about the car that appeals to me. I would've rather have a Buick Reatta.

No shit, anyone would.... That is a true classic!