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Kensu · 08-09-2016, 02:30 PM

Exactly what the title says lol My cousin wants to jump on a 10 series and i cant exactly gove him the best advice in regards to an ad he was looking at. So im here asking the best group of people i know to help me to help him lol

Heres the AD
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/5719832693.html

Any information on wether this is a good buy or not would be greatly appreciated. I owe you guys

cdq85 · 08-09-2016, 02:34 PM

Well I look at it like this, that owner bought it from auction and now sees that it is a bigger issue than they probably anticipated. If your cousin is very familiar with wiring and the 86 platform then maybe take a stab at it for 7k. Otherwise I'd say steer clear. And I can't tell from the pictures if it's all keyed still. If it is id definitely stay away.

FX86 · 08-09-2016, 02:42 PM

wonder if a crazy psycho ex vandalized this vehicle like that

that b!tch

Impureclient · 08-09-2016, 02:47 PM

Never seen such thought out vandalism. Went after each panel and part to make sure the job was done thoroughly to get it totalled.

FX86 · 08-09-2016, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impureclient

Never seen such thought out vandalism. Went after each panel and part to make sure the job was done thoroughly to get it totalled.

i would say it had to be someone that had keys to the car... to go all out of the way to get access to the engine bay...don't see any broken windows to get into the cabin to vandalize the seats and dashboard

i'm sticking with my crazy b!tch theory

Tcoat · 08-09-2016, 02:54 PM

Depends on what they want the car for. If going to turn it into a dedicated track vehicle may be a good buy. If want and don't care how pretty it is may be OK. If want to get it looking good again probably $5 or $6K in body work and paint and there is still some damage to the interior to take care of.

That engine bay looks like it has been to hell and back even without the vandalism and god only knows what electrical components are burnet out from the harness being slashed and shorted. Somebody was very, VERY pissed when they did all that so god only knows what they poured in the fuel tank or other hidden damage that will not appear until the car is moving and running again. Whoever did all that knew enough about cars to target the wiring harness so who knows what else they have done.

The car was considered a write off by the insurance company so the total estimated repair value was high enough to warrant their action and if anybody wants to put the car back to like new they are going to have to pay some bucks even if they do a lot of the work themselves.

I would not touch that car for over about $4K since there are still many unknowns and even then it may not be worth even that.

strat61caster · 08-09-2016, 03:37 PM

It doesn't start and they can't get it to start normally. Period, done, end of assessment.

I'm with tcoat, it's worth <$5k until it starts and operates normally and then it'd be a beater, not 'look at my super nice FRS that I secretly got for chump change and fixed up on my own'

You're looking at $5k-$10k to get that car looking fresh as a daisy and it will never ever be worth what you put into it because it will always carry a salvage/rebuilt title.

But for $5k investment to sort out the powertrain and prep it for street/track/autocross duty, lets go racing.

humfrz · 08-09-2016, 03:53 PM

Oh, I'd recommend that he toss that ad in the trash can and move on to the next one.

humfrz

darthpnoy1984 · 08-09-2016, 03:58 PM

As a salvage owner like myself I would rather get one from the auction and then you do the work in restoring the car it seems a lot of work getting that thing back on the road.

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darthpnoy1984 · 08-09-2016, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

It doesn't start and they can't get it to start normally. Period, done, end of assessment.

I'm with tcoat, <$5k until it starts and operates normally and then it'd be a beater, not 'look at my super nice FRS that I secretly got for chump change and fixed up on my own'

You're looking at $5k-$10k to get that car looking fresh as a daisy and it will never ever be worth what you put into it because it will always carry a salvage/rebuilt title.

But for $5k investment to sort out the powertrain and prep it for street/track/autocross duty, lets go racing.

Agree with it I know many people here scorn and loathe salvage cars but if you know what your doing and don't take Mickey Mouse shortcuts, do diligent research it's worth spending the money and besides your saving a car from ending up in the graveyard.

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Kensu · 08-09-2016, 04:13 PM

thanks guys, my cousin will be able to a much better and clear headed decision with the information youve given me. I knew it would be a lot to get it fixed up, but you guys shared a lot of information I wasnt thinking of. Glad I can always count on you guys. I laughed when i saw T coats post, just when i was about to read it, I saw how long it was and said to my cousin " listen up, this is the one you want to listen to". Always super informative lol

retoocs · 08-09-2016, 04:39 PM

So the trunk is the only body panel that didn't have a hole punch in it?

Tcoat · 08-09-2016, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retoocs

So the trunk is the only body panel that didn't have a hole punch in it?

I suspect that who ever did that to the car did not want to leave a hole in the trunk that would let air in.
I would LOVE to know the backstory on this!!!

BRZnut · 08-09-2016, 09:44 PM

I say pass. All that dirt in the engine bay looks like it was under water.

08-09-2016, 02:30 PM	#1
Kensu Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 13 brz premium Location: Connecticut Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cant make heads or tails. Exactly what the title says lol My cousin wants to jump on a 10 series and i cant exactly gove him the best advice in regards to an ad he was looking at. So im here asking the best group of people i know to help me to help him lol Heres the AD http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/5719832693.html Any information on wether this is a good buy or not would be greatly appreciated. I owe you guys

08-09-2016, 02:54 PM	#6
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Depends on what they want the car for. If going to turn it into a dedicated track vehicle may be a good buy. If want and don't care how pretty it is may be OK. If want to get it looking good again probably $5 or $6K in body work and paint and there is still some damage to the interior to take care of. That engine bay looks like it has been to hell and back even without the vandalism and god only knows what electrical components are burnet out from the harness being slashed and shorted. Somebody was very, VERY pissed when they did all that so god only knows what they poured in the fuel tank or other hidden damage that will not appear until the car is moving and running again. Whoever did all that knew enough about cars to target the wiring harness so who knows what else they have done. The car was considered a write off by the insurance company so the total estimated repair value was high enough to warrant their action and if anybody wants to put the car back to like new they are going to have to pay some bucks even if they do a lot of the work themselves. I would not touch that car for over about $4K since there are still many unknowns and even then it may not be worth even that. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar. Last edited by Tcoat; 08-09-2016 at 03:43 PM.

08-09-2016, 03:58 PM	#9
darthpnoy1984 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 15 ZN6 Asphalt Location: Carson CA Posts: 441 Thanks: 338 Thanked 195 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As a salvage owner like myself I would rather get one from the auction and then you do the work in restoring the car it seems a lot of work getting that thing back on the road. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 2015 ZN6 DD AT

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cdq85 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Drives: 2013 Raven FR-S Location: Greensburg, PA Posts: 249 Thanks: 107 Thanked 285 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well I look at it like this, that owner bought it from auction and now sees that it is a bigger issue than they probably anticipated. If your cousin is very familiar with wiring and the 86 platform then maybe take a stab at it for 7k. Otherwise I'd say steer clear. And I can't tell from the pictures if it's all keyed still. If it is id definitely stay away.

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Kensu Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Drives: 13 brz premium Location: Connecticut Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	thanks guys, my cousin will be able to a much better and clear headed decision with the information youve given me. I knew it would be a lot to get it fixed up, but you guys shared a lot of information I wasnt thinking of. Glad I can always count on you guys. I laughed when i saw T coats post, just when i was about to read it, I saw how long it was and said to my cousin " listen up, this is the one you want to listen to". Always super informative lol

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retoocs Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 168 Thanks: 2 Thanked 63 Times in 43 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So the trunk is the only body panel that didn't have a hole punch in it?

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BRZnut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ DGM Limited Location: USA Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 5 Thanked 431 Times in 250 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I say pass. All that dirt in the engine bay looks like it was under water.

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