Where do I stand legally?

[Nardi330]

In QLD, it's 10%....

I think u are losing about 3-4k by trading at $9k.

[catcha]

Originally Posted by GC GTS Aero Kit

Yeah considering the backlog of these cars all they would do is sell it to the next person guaranteed sale......you go to the back of the que

I reckon your ONLY option and I have had a quick look at QLD cooling off period for QLD new cars you get NONE .


1. reason with the manger and see if you can work out something. your right if you choose to sell the car for more should not have a effect. they sell car you get more money win win.

2 hope that your finance rejects your loan, but if you can't get that how can you get another one. Subject to finance is a loose term. you may not get finance with your bank but toyota apply for you at toyota finance and sign you up on a higher rate maybe and you won't be able to do anything about it. you have to make 3 attempts and if you can't get it contract is void

other than that not sure what else, are you young and your parents are helping you out in any way. maybe bring your parents into to give them a serving make your g/f cause a scene dealers won't like that with other customers around

[Loki556]

Hey Kenno, can you tell us which dealer this was? I am just finding Brisbane dealers quite shocking so far, I am actually considering getting a car from another state.

BTW, mate I'd take the Integra off your hands for 10k :P

[Nardi330]

I have to say Brisbane dealers are shocking and Sydney ones are much better.

Kenno, refer to clause 3(a) about trade in. They put the km as 78,537, I'd assume u will still be driving the car and by increasing the odometer you must give written notice to them and they can reduce your trade in value even more!!!

Just reading the clauses, the only way for the trade in value is down and not up!!!

I think u are pretty much locked in except for the finance clause. And if u cancel now u have to join the back of the queue.

Your last resort action is go to the dealer tomorrow when they have many customers and make a big fuss of it.

[Loki556]

Also look on carsales and maybe give a few dealers that have cars in stock a call. It would cost around $600 to get a car delivered from another state, I would consider that option if I was loosing that much on my trade in.

[Enemies]

Your deposit is non-refundable? That's so harsh. I know it's unlikely but what if you decided the car wasn't for you after test driving it? You'd be out of your deposit and have sold your existing car for less than it's worth?

[FT-86GOD]

Mate see the manager before rolling over on ur back and giving up...... And if u get no where with them set up a thread or put on here a big name and shame... Yes u fucked up signing without checking but we are talking about thousands of dollars u are getting shafted.. Ur willing to replace trade in with cash, unless they gave u a great discounted price on the 86 then ur getting fucked hard in the ass with no lube.... Thats not acceptable......

[Nardi330]

Originally Posted by Enemies

Your deposit is non-refundable? That's so harsh. I know it's unlikely but what if you decided the car wasn't for you after test driving it? You'd be out of your deposit and have sold your existing car for less than it's worth?

He drove the car before signing....

I'm with FT-86GOD...

[os86]

Dude, this is quite a crap situation to be in.

I had a quick look at your invoice, seems like your $2000 deposit was paid via credit card which means you are protected.

Now I understand that your car is 3 weeks away and you are excited about it, however if I was in your place this is what I would do, Know that you will make atleast 5 - 7k profit on your DC5r,


I will call up your credit card provider " your bank" as all transactions are protected. Lodge for a charge back on the grounds that you are not satisfied with service and wish to cancel the order with toyota. It might be little difficult but honestly the bank usually works hard for you. You have to be prepared to walk away from the car. Off-course I would be discussing this with one of the Senior Managers at the dealership and would not take NO for an answer.

If you want to discuss further , feel free to PM.

Usually 3 days cooling off period is standard nationally, not sure when you signed up the agreement

[os86]

Originally Posted by Kenno

Unfortunately, I took the car for a test drive on Tuesday afternoon before doing this paperwork, doh!

Just looked at my contract, on the back where the Terms And Conditions are, I have not signed it. Does this make any difference?

Yes this is perfect. you have not signed the contract which makes it illegal for them to draw funds out of your credit card, unless you have signed a receipt for the payment


need more details,

[os86]

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

Mate see the manager before rolling over on ur back and giving up...... And if u get no where with them set up a thread or put on here a big name and shame... Yes u fucked up signing without checking but we are talking about thousands of dollars u are getting shafted.. Ur willing to replace trade in with cash, unless they gave u a great discounted price on the 86 then ur getting fucked hard in the ass with no lube.... Thats not acceptable......

I second this

[Nardi330]

Os86, not sure doing the credit card trick will trigger the default clause and might subject the OP to be liable of 10% of the purchase price.

And there is no cooling off for new car purchase in QLD.

[Maj3sty]

Originally Posted by FT-86GOD

Mate see the manager before rolling over on ur back and giving up...... And if u get no where with them set up a thread or put on here a big name and shame... Yes u fucked up signing without checking but we are talking about thousands of dollars u are getting shafted.. Ur willing to replace trade in with cash, unless they gave u a great discounted price on the 86 then ur getting fucked hard in the ass with no lube.... Thats not acceptable......

The dealership knows that they've got an awesome deal on the DC5S, they'll make a huge profilt on that vehicle.

[R Corse]

I understand that I am not from your region; however in the states, if you havent taken posession of the vehicl, it isn't yours.

The contract is an agreement of how you are to purchase the car, but not one that they can make you buy it and drop the car on your doorstep (even if ordered from the factory). Meaning, even here, if placed an order with a deposit (refundable), you choose to back out when the car gets to your dealer, you still get your money back so long as you dont leave the dealer with the car that you purchased (and the papers arent signed).

SO, question is, where is the car that you were looking to buy (and the trad-in)?

Did you or didn't you sign paperwork? What is this paperwork and what EXACTLY does it say?

If they withdrew on your credit card, contact the company (Mastercard/Visa) and explain all of the details. If it's a bank debit/credit card, contact bank. This is enforceable. Dont sale your trade in until all other details ave been sorted.

Last, you may have to purchase from a different stealer, and black list this one.

GL!