follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Forced Induction

Forced Induction Turbo, Supercharger, Methanol, Nitrous

Register and become an FT86Club.com member. You will see fewer ads

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-22-2016, 08:41 PM   #519
StRacngtC06
Senior Member
 
StRacngtC06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 115
Thanks: 76
Thanked 46 Times in 30 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by weederr33 View Post
No problems here. It's a great overall package for what you get. Were you going to use Cosworth's tune or getting something custom done?
I would just start with the supplied tune from Cosworth, but I do have a local tuner who is capable.
__________________
StRacngtC06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2016, 02:51 AM   #520
StRacngtC06
Senior Member
 
StRacngtC06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: 2013 Whiteout FR-S
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 115
Thanks: 76
Thanked 46 Times in 30 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Garage
Is there a preference for tunes?

Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk
__________________
StRacngtC06 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2016, 07:20 AM   #521
ajc209
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: GT86 Cosworth
Location: UK
Posts: 753
Thanks: 361
Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by StRacngtC06 View Post
Is there a preference for tunes?

Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk
I'd stick with the Cosworth tune. I'm not sure I know of any other tuners that have done proper cylinder balancing like Matt et al at Cosworth have carried out in the calibration while they had the engine on the test bench (dyno).
ajc209 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ajc209 For This Useful Post:
chaoskaze (08-29-2016), StRacngtC06 (06-24-2016)
Old 07-10-2016, 05:20 PM   #522
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,420
Thanks: 4,578
Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Has anyone looked into using the new Jackson Racing radiator/ oil cooler combo with our supercharger, yet?
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2016, 01:46 PM   #523
pjp
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: frs
Location: so cal
Posts: 48
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Are you working on CARB??
I would love to spend $ in Ca
That would make it Easy
pjp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:10 AM   #524
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,420
Thanks: 4,578
Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
@Matt@Cosworth


You guys said the supercharger is rated at ~380 bhp. How much torque do you suspect it will make at maxed out? Recently had to upgrade my clutch which is rated at 315 ft/lb (I still need to daily my car) and wanted to know how it would hold up. Thanks much!
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2016, 11:54 PM   #525
Hamegreg
Member
 
Hamegreg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Drives: 2015 WRB BRZ Aozora Edition
Location: ON, Canada
Posts: 15
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by weederr33 View Post
You guys said the supercharger is rated at ~380 bhp. How much torque do you suspect it will make at maxed out? Recently had to upgrade my clutch which is rated at 315 ft/lb (I still need to daily my car) and wanted to know how it would hold up. Thanks much!
A good assumption torque would be as follows:

Assuming torque is roughly constant from 4000-7000 rpm, we can assume that we have a somewhat near maximum torque at max horsepower (7000 rpm).

Using the equation for torque and horsepower which is:
*all unit are in italic*

Power = Torque * Rotational Speed

Assuming 380 hp at 7000 rpm

380 hp = Torque * (2 * pi rad/rotation) * 7,000 rotation/min

Torque = 380 hp / (2 * pi * 7,000 rad/min)

Torque = 0.00864 hp min/rad

Torque = 0.00864 hp min/rad x 33,000 lbs ft / min hp

Torque = 285 lbs ft

*Roughly*

This is a theoretical value and therefore could be off, but a good assumption nonetheless. I would guess somewhere within 10% up or down from this value is a great guess (256 lbs ft - 313 lbs ft).

Your clutch should be just fine IMO.

Good luck though
Hamegreg is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Hamegreg For This Useful Post:
Nitro22 (07-22-2016), sly (07-21-2016)
Old 07-21-2016, 01:01 AM   #526
Freude am Fahren
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited/'14 Yamaha R6
Location: SoFlo
Posts: 333
Thanks: 46
Thanked 96 Times in 64 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
You know you can just do (HP/RPM)x5252?

I know that's basically what you did, but it's a well enough known equation in car guys heads. No need to show your work here
__________________

-XXR 527 18x8.75 +35
-Nameless 2.5" OP/FP Combo (Coming soon) & Axleback
-SBD 500X (Waiting on coating to install)
-Southbend SBD500X Clutch

Last edited by Freude am Fahren; 07-21-2016 at 01:48 PM. Reason: fix math
Freude am Fahren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 06:21 AM   #527
ajc209
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: GT86 Cosworth
Location: UK
Posts: 753
Thanks: 361
Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Peak torque will be a little higher as it peaks at 5500rm and drops off a little before hitting max power. ~300 lbft ball park. Your clutch will be fine Weeder.
ajc209 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 09:21 AM   #528
Hamegreg
Member
 
Hamegreg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Drives: 2015 WRB BRZ Aozora Edition
Location: ON, Canada
Posts: 15
Thanks: 3
Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freude am Fahren View Post
You know you can just do (HP/RPM)/5252?

I know that's basically what you did, but it's a well enough known equation in car guys heads. No need to show your work here


It does make it simpler to use, I just tried to show every step of the way in a somewhat educative manner. I do this for a living so it's a habit to show every step. The internets might not need all of that hehe. Thanks

As for the peak torque at 5500rpm, it is true but I can't assess hp at 5500rpm. I could use a graph and make an interpolation between the current torque and what it would be with the 380hp upgrade. However I wrote this late last night and just wanted to get a number out there. The torque value should still be within the plus or minus 10% though.
Hamegreg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 10:45 AM   #529
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,420
Thanks: 4,578
Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
That's too much math, man....
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 01:38 PM   #530
Nitro22
Senior Member
 
Nitro22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Drives: Scion FR-S (Hot Lava)
Location: SoCal
Posts: 285
Thanks: 192
Thanked 194 Times in 87 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freude am Fahren View Post
You know you can just do (HP/RPM)/5252?

I know that's basically what you did, but it's a well enough known equation in car guys heads. No need to show your work here
torque = (hp/rpm) x 5252
Nitro22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2016, 01:46 PM   #531
Freude am Fahren
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited/'14 Yamaha R6
Location: SoFlo
Posts: 333
Thanks: 46
Thanked 96 Times in 64 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Haha, yeah, there are a few ways to express it, I wrote one, then went to change it and only changed part of it. I originally wrote HP/(RPM/5252). But HP/RPM x 5252 is better because you can put it right into a calculator without parentheses.

Don't you love when you try to be a smartass and mess it up
__________________

-XXR 527 18x8.75 +35
-Nameless 2.5" OP/FP Combo (Coming soon) & Axleback
-SBD 500X (Waiting on coating to install)
-Southbend SBD500X Clutch
Freude am Fahren is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Freude am Fahren For This Useful Post:
Hamegreg (07-21-2016), Nitro22 (07-22-2016)
Old 08-03-2016, 04:43 PM   #532
weederr33
Airborne at your service
 
weederr33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow
Location: El Paso, Texas
Posts: 6,420
Thanks: 4,578
Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Ok, so my first real issue with the supercharger kit. The idler/ tensioner pulley that came with the kit has malfunctioned for some reason and is grinding against the engine block. Not sure why it happened, but I already emailed Cosworth about getting a replacement asap. I think this should be an easy fix, but probably shouldn't drive the car till I get a pulley.

On another note, I wonder if the Raceseng pulley's would work?
__________________
Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135

MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT
weederr33 is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jackson Racing Supercharger Owners Thread enivid Forced Induction 6036 11-12-2025 11:42 PM
Kraftwerks Supercharger Owners Thread projek_01 Forced Induction 4310 04-07-2025 02:12 PM
HKS Supercharger owners thread wbradley Forced Induction 1054 10-26-2024 02:18 PM
Phantom FTS Electric Supercharger Owners Thread TM Forced Induction 1206 12-15-2019 03:33 PM
Supercharger Kits! Vortech/Cosworth RallySport Direct Forced Induction 61 06-29-2015 12:26 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.