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Old 07-18-2016, 03:00 PM   #463
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The windows on the new Camaro feel so small compare to our twins. Though I don't mind owning an SS model to be honest.
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A lot of people talking crap about the Camaro in here, seem to be completely unaware that it now handles as well as a BMW M3.
Talking handling in terms of >3,500 lb luxury cars doesn't impress most people around here.

The last gen was also comparable to the M3 in terms of performance, I drove a '14 SS and if you gave me any Camaro free and clear it'd be listed for sale by sundown. I'd be surprised if the new one changed my mind. If I'm carrying around that much weight it might as well come with 4 doors.



I wouldn't say it's a bad car, just different strokes and all that. Everyone here who bought an 86 could have easily walked across the street and driven home in a Camaro, we simply aren't the target audience.
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Old 07-18-2016, 04:53 PM   #465
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What was up with that rear brake bias!?
Our cars do the exact same thing when the vsc freaks out at the track, it's happened to me and a few other and it's scary as fuck the first time. Always pedal dance!
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Old 07-18-2016, 05:07 PM   #466
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It's not worse, but it's only marginally better, and that only to the front. In other words: it blows.

Test drove this for quite a while, the SS model - great engine sound, loved the rev-matching on the manual (wish they put that into the BRZ refresh!). But the car is HUUUGE, way too big and heavy to feel agile. No thanks.
I'm glad they didn't put some stupid computer to rev-match a manual transmission. I'll cut you some slack if you can't heel and toe but if you can't even do a simple rev-match or double-clutch downshift then please just buy the automatic.

I've always wondered how people manage to see out of these big muscle cars, it's like being surrounded by the Great Wall of China inside. I thought the 190E was bad with that big ass hood but at least that car sat fairly low.

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Having owned a Camaro for two years, if you like your BRZ/FRS, you won't like the Camaro.

Plus- it looks good and it has a lot of storage and you can take passengers, people love the car and it gets tons of attention (mine is white with orange racing stripes)
Negatives- can't see out of it, you feel like you are in a tank and your passenger is in a bunker, hard to back out, doesn't handle well, can't feel the power, it feels like it can't get out of its own way, even with 325 hp

I'm looking to sell my 2014 Camaro. I only put 3k miles on it. I've put 12k on my WRX in under a year, so if I like a car, I will drive it.

Funny thing, I own a manual. The auto actually feels like it has some power. Test drive both. You will be surprised. The V8 manual is much better for power though as a manual.
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Old 07-20-2016, 09:24 AM   #469
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Talking handling in terms of >3,500 lb luxury cars doesn't impress most people around here.

The last gen was also comparable to the M3 in terms of performance, I drove a '14 SS and if you gave me any Camaro free and clear it'd be listed for sale by sundown. I'd be surprised if the new one changed my mind. If I'm carrying around that much weight it might as well come with 4 doors.



I wouldn't say it's a bad car, just different strokes and all that. Everyone here who bought an 86 could have easily walked across the street and driven home in a Camaro, we simply aren't the target audience.
Oh I don't disagree with you. I have no interest in owning one. I've never owned a car that weighed over 3000 lbs and have no intention of changing that any time soon.

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Having owned a Camaro for two years, if you like your BRZ/FRS, you won't like the Camaro.

Plus- it looks good and it has a lot of storage and you can take passengers, people love the car and it gets tons of attention (mine is white with orange racing stripes)
Negatives- can't see out of it, you feel like you are in a tank and your passenger is in a bunker, hard to back out, doesn't handle well, can't feel the power, it feels like it can't get out of its own way, even with 325 hp

I'm looking to sell my 2014 Camaro. I only put 3k miles on it. I've put 12k on my WRX in under a year, so if I like a car, I will drive it.

Funny thing, I own a manual. The auto actually feels like it has some power. Test drive both. You will be surprised. The V8 manual is much better for power though as a manual.
It's great to know an owner's perspective, however your Camaro has very, very little in common dynamically with a 2016 Camaro. It may look similar but is built on an entirely different platform. Apples to Oranges. The facts are that for it's weight and size it's top of the class for handling.

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Ordering Guide Reveals 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Actually Has Z06-Equalling 650hp



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A leaked ordering guide has revealed that the 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 will brutalize its rear tyres thanks to 650 hp and 650 lb-ft (881 Nm) of torque.

Uncovered by the crew at the Camaro 6 forums, the ordering guide shows that the 2017 ZL1's 6.2-liter supercharged LT4 V8 engine boasts exactly the same horsepower and torque figures as the Corvette Z06 but is 57 hp shy of the Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat. These numbers are 10 hp and 10 lb-ft up on what was previously reported for the ZL1.

While the Hellcat may continue to lead the muscle car horsepower game, it isn't all that usable on a race circuit. The new Camaro ZL1 by comparison has the ingredients to be more capable on a technical track thanks to higher downforce figures and a near 500 pound weight advantage.

Beyond the vehicle's engine, the new Camaro ZL1 is offered as standard with a six-speed manual with active rev-matching but can also be ordered with GM's 10-speed automatic transmission. Grip comes courtesy of 285/30ZR20 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires at the front and 305/30 section shoes at the rear.

Considering how capable the new ZL1 should be on track, we can't imagine where Chevy will go with the next Z/28.
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Geiger Celebrates Camaro's 50th Anniversary With A 630 PS Variant



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If you live on the other side of the “pond” and fancy a supercharged Camaro, Geiger has got you covered.

For the musclecar-loving Europeans, the German tuner slash importer has prepped a special Chevy Camaro just in time for the model’s 50th anniversary. It’s called the Supercharged 630, and, like its name suggests, is just 29 PS (29 hp) shy of the ZL1’s output.

That’s because Geiger concentrated its efforts on uprating the 6.2-liter LT1 V8 from 461 PS (455 hp) and 617 Nm (455 lb-ft) of torque to 630 PS (621 hp) and 791 Nm (583 lb-ft) of torque. In order to achieve the extra grunt, Geiger added a supercharger, optimized the software, and implemented a new oil cooling system.

With that kind of power at its disposal, the revitalized Camaro is capable of accelerating from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 3.9 seconds, and reach a maximum top speed of 305 km/h.

To better control the added horsepower, Geiger installed a KW Variant 1 coilover suspension system along with a set of 21-inch OZ Racing Superturismo Dakar alloys, wrapped in 255/35ZR21 tires at the front and 295/30ZR21 at the rear.

Visually, the Chevrolet Camaro Supercharged 630 also received an aggressive body kit that comes with a new front spoiler, side skirts, and a rear diffuser embedded into the bumper. Additionally, the car comes with a sunroof, special leather interior, a sport exhaust system, Brembo brakes, rear diff, and audio and multimedia packages.
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$90,000 FireBall Camaro With 990HP Ready To Challenge Hellcats



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The maker of the FireBall Camaro almost describes this build as the ultimate Hellcat and Roush ‘Stang hunter. We think it has something to do with the car’s 990 hp power figure.

From the outside, it looks like your regular old SS, but it bears supercar-worthy performance figures. Needless to say, there isn’t anything like it, as in its quest to create the fastest Camaro for the track, and for the streets, Fireball came up with the ultimate muscle car.

Fireball usually builds 9-second drag cars, but this time they used all their expertise to offer a road-legal variant of their racers. Unveiled at the SEMA show, a few days ago, the 6th gen Camaro features a plethora of high-performance components, including a Fireball supercharger, ported heads, high-performance lifters, Chromoly pushrods, and the list goes on and on.

Let’s just say it has enough modifications to develop 990 hp at the flywheel (827 whp), and 677.34 lb-ft (918 Nm) of torque. That’s 340 hp more than a ZL1, albeit Fireball doesn’t specify what engine does the vehicle use.

And here’s the interesting part; the vehicle will be available at select dealers with an MSRP of less than $90,000. Or less than a $100 per horsepower, as Fireball wants to put it.

So, if you own a Challenger or Charger Hellcat, well, run!
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New 2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Puts On Its Tracksuit

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCr7Rvw8ihM"]Meet the 2018 Camaro ZL1 with 1LE Track Package | Chevrolet - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1l3BC6C6A8"]2018 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Track - YouTube[/ame]

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The latest generation the Camaro ZL1 was the top dog of the range on the track, but apparently, Chevy had other plans up its sleeves. Making its debut today at the Daytona International Speedway is the 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE, an even more hardcore version of what was already labeled by many as a track monster.

We had actually caught the Camaro ZL1 1LE back in October of 2016 while testing, but at the time, we had wrongly assumed it was a mule for the next Z/28.

Chevy uses the 1LE packages on the standard V6 and V8 Camaros to improve their handling, and it promises to do the same with the ZL1 adding special aero technologies, an adjustable racing suspension, exclusive tires while also reducing weight.

“The track-focused 1LE package offers progressive levels of performance across the Camaro lineup, from the V6 1LE to the SS 1LE,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. “But with the new ZL1 1LE, the progression takes a quantum leap — this is the ultimate track-day Camaro.”

According to the company, in preliminary testing, the new ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors’ 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track. Three seconds might not sound a lot to the uninitiated, but’s it’s a huge improvement when we’re talking about track times.

Chevy says it achieved this without touching the ZL1’s 6.2-liter LT4 V8 that continues to put down 650hp and 650 lb-ft of torque and is linked exclusively to a 6sp manual (the new 10speed auto is not offered), through four key elements starting with the aerodynamics. New features include a giant carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia that generate more downforce.

One of the most important updates brought along by the 1LE package is the replacement of the standard ZL1’s Magnetic Ride shocks with the racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers on both ends, which was used on the previous Camaro Z/28 with astounding results. Chevy also made other tweaks to the suspension including a three-way adjustable rear stabilizer bar.

The ZL1 1LE rides on new, 1-inch wider, but an inch smaller in diameter front and rear forged alloy wheels wrapped in Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g and which warm up faster. While the overall footprint grows around 10 percent over the regular ZL1, the wheel-and-tire package weighs about 1.5 pounds (3.3 kg) less per corner.

The use of lighter wheels and dampers, along with reduced thickness rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, help the 1LE drop about 60-pounds (27 kg) over the standard ZL1 Coupe.

Chevy said the new ZL1 1LE will reach dealers later this year, with pricing to be announced.
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I really appreciate Chevy's philosophy with the Camaro and Corvette, specifically the 1LE and GS packages.
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2019 Camaro Z/28 May Use 700 HP Naturally-Aspirated V8

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For months, it was thought that prototypes of the recently-revealed Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE were of the next Z/28. However, at the Daytona 500, Chevy proved us all wrong when it unveiled the high-performance 1LE package for the ZL1.

Fortunately, hopes of a Z/28 based around the sixth-generation Camaro are still very much alive and if the latest speculation proves correct, it could be worth the extended wait.

Car&Driver claims that the new Z/28, potentially arriving for the 2019 model year, will go one step beyond the ZL1 1LE and could feature a naturally-aspirated V8 engine delivering a dizzying 700 hp.

It is reported that this new engine, dubbed the LT6, will be joined by a new twin-turbo LT7 V8 when the 2018 C7 Corvette ZR1 launches. Although there’s a possibility the Z/28 could feature either of these two, the all-motor option is being favored. Whichever engine is selected, it will feature an aluminum block and head, four-valve combustion chambers, direct fuel injection, titanium connecting rods, a flat crankshaft and displace approximately 5.5-liters.

It is logical that the new Z/28 will also be lighter than the ZL1 1LE and adorned with even bolder bodywork to make it the ultimate Camaro track weapon.
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Holy crap. 700hp NA V8!? Holy crap.
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