2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[Stephen W.]

When I hear "Push Start" I think of this:

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Shinigami301

You must have some mad negotiating skills, live in a tax-free state, and have incriminating photos of the sales, finance and general managers of the dealership, if you really believe that.

2 grand off MSRP isn't difficult at all.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

My BRZ needs a push-and-hold. Not a long hold, mind you, but you certainly can't just jab the button and expect it to crank.

My beef with push start is, if I arrive at my destination but am on a bluetooth call or listening to something on the radio, if I shut the car down, the unit takes a full minute to restart, whereas for a physical key, I could just switch the car to "ACC/engine off"

This is what I was referring to.

It's pretty funny the reaction to this minor point when talking about whether I'd prefer a base model to one with a few extras. People are mad pedantic about the weirdest shit sometimes. <Welcome's self to the internet./>

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

2 grand off MSRP isn't difficult at all.

Maybe in your part of the world but not up here north of the 49th.



You obviously missed my post in the “Crazy salesman/car purchase story” thread.



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[Shinigami301]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

2 grand off MSRP isn't difficult at all.

That is true. But you said "out the door" which is an entirely different matter.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

It's pretty funny the reaction to this minor point when talking about whether I'd prefer a base model to one with a few extras. People are mad pedantic about the weirdest shit sometimes. <Welcome's self to the internet./>

I'm also not crazy about the driving off without your keys part of it as well. I park my 86 in the garage and hang my keys inside next to the door. It would be very easy to drive off without the keys, then get stuck somewhere.

Then again, I would just as soon have had roll-up windows since I hardly never put mine down, and its just something to break, so I'm a bit weird like that.

I'm guessing the frameless windows sort of dictate electric windows though.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Shinigami301

That is true. But you said "out the door" which is an entirely different matter.

Should have said MSRP. In any case, my hope is still strong that future Toyota 86's offer equipment ala carte or at least base/stripper 86's giving us the option to choose what we want to pay for. In the end this would lower our out the door costs.

[DAEMANO]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'm also not crazy about the driving off without your keys part of it as well. I park my 86 in the garage and hang my keys inside next to the door. It would be very easy to drive off without the keys, then get stuck somewhere.

Now that would seriously suck!

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Now that would seriously suck!

Happened to lots of folks (easy Internet search) not to mention a few deaths from people forgetting to turn the car off with the button.

Most of this will be worked around, but its just another unneeded (for me) gadget that eventually I'll be "forced" to buy because it became standard (which means the cost is included, not that its free). People wonder why cars cost so much, well, there's part of the answer, emissions, electronic gadgets, safety gear, cup holders, they all add cost.

[jello4018]

Japanparts listed some trd parts for the facelift. I wish Subaru had the door handle protector too. IMO the TRD front spoiler w/ LED makes the facelift look way better.


https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/49053

[kennyboy86]

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[MJones_RB]

Awe, man! A redesigned TRD fuel cap?

[CBR600RR]

^^ I like it in white now!

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Happened to lots of folks (easy Internet search) not to mention a few deaths from people forgetting to turn the car off with the button.

Most of this will be worked around, but its just another unneeded (for me) gadget that eventually I'll be "forced" to buy because it became standard (which means the cost is included, not that its free). People wonder why cars cost so much, well, there's part of the answer, emissions, electronic gadgets, safety gear, cup holders, they all add cost.

Hear hear.
Although, I've since switched to a car with a physical key, and the one thing I miss from the smart key is the ability to just open the door without my key in hand.

I almost had the "left my key somewhere else after starting the car" moment once, when I let a friend test drive the car.
I handed him the key (bad idea), and when I got home (half an hour away), had a brief moment when I realized I didn't grab it back (thankfully, my buddy was smart enough to place my keys in my cupholder).
On the plus side, the car will beep to warn you if you don't have your key.