2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[FR-S Future Owner]

Originally Posted by Vassp

I don't even know what a 7mgte is....... .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_M_engine#7M-GTE

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by KendallH

Because the EJ255/257 are complete trash

Oh really???? Please explain to me your reasoning for such a statement.

[Vassp]

Originally Posted by KendallH

Because the EJ255/257 are complete trash

Trash in what way?

[krayzie]

Ringland failure.

[shellslinger]

No no no, you guys are all wrong. The 2017 Toyota 86 is going to come with a 13B-REW along with all new dual clutch transmission.

[FR-S Future Owner]

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107635

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by krayzie

Ringland failure.

Yes, some stock cast hypereutectic pistons have been known to fail. However, it’s been proven that these are the result of knock/detonation events. People who run the proper grade fuel with a professional ECU tune in their cars (and don’t go for crazy ass power with the stock internals) have no problems.







http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/impp-1103-subaru-ej-series-engine-tech/

[Spacemane969]

Was this buried in here somewhere?

http://www.quebecfrs.com/forums/gene...brz-86-2017-!/

[stevesnj]

Originally Posted by shellslinger

...with all new dual clutch transmission.

That I would trade mine in for.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by shellslinger

No no no, you guys are all wrong. The 2017 Toyota 86 is going to come with a 13B-REW along with all new dual clutch transmission.

Dude the leak obviously states that it comes with melon wheels, bacon seats and banana peel engine with cricket pistons.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Spacemane969

Was this buried in here somewhere?

http://www.quebecfrs.com/forums/gene...brz-86-2017-!/

So, it looks that the intake and exhaust changes will go in North America, Japan and Australia. Europe stays with the old design?

╼ For Nor th America: 200 HP  205 HP

╼ For Japan, Australia: 147 kW (200 PS)  152 kW (207 PS)

[Vassp]

[QUOTE=nikitopo;2692086]So, it looks that the intake and exhaust changes will go in North America, Japan and Australia. Europe stays with the old design?

Going to be interesting how much the engine and diff change effect performance feel small percent changes we are speaking of. 4100-4300 is nothing.

I'm puzzled as to why they didn't do this across all the markets.....possibly Toyota Europe doing a deal and using up current parts till they clear out 'older' inventory. Really thought Australia would cop that too, seeing as the 86 is priced better (vs competition) in Australia than most markets.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Vassp

Going to be interesting how much the engine and diff change effect performance feel small percent changes we are speaking of. 4100-4300 is nothing.

I would say from 3300-4300, but yes the difference in the graph is small. It is not the "hidden" gains we were told about. From my point of view, it is not even worth it to install the manifold and the header in the old models. Of course, I am sure some will do it for the looks (especially the red intake manifold).

Originally Posted by Vassp

I'm puzzled as to why they didn't do this across all the markets.....possibly Toyota Europe doing a deal and using up current parts till they clear out 'older' inventory. Really thought Australia would cop that too, seeing as the 86 is priced better (vs competition) in Australia than most markets.

Maybe they couldn't cope the Emissions Standards. I can see that Australia has the Euro 5b standards and gets the engine changes, but Europe has the Euro 6b standard and gets nothing.

In fact I suppose it will have a higher cost to keep an inventory of different pistons, intake manifolds & air-intake, fuel systems, headers etc. I think the 1st version wasn't differentiated so much per area.


At least, they deserve an applause for this. It looks that they did the best to provide an actual upgrade.

[Mr.Impreza]

I may or may not consider the new header. However it seems like the new Header is more EL, than the 2013-2016 header...so I'll probably just keep my 2015 header because i like the little rumble at low rpm. Sounds exactly like my 02 WRX (also stock header)