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Ashikabi · 06-13-2016, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Then he should have to shouldn't he?

Suppose that's not what we are arguing about

Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by p1l0t

Well it's somewhere between 2ft and 25ft between the 40 and 70mph and I missed her by a foot so Brembos saved the day by some margin.

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Zero proof. No facts there. An assumption at best. By using the data on hand you may have missed by more if on stock brakes.

Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Suppose that's not what we are arguing about

Exactly. If she could stop in that distance with her stock Camry brakes he should have been way back by his theory.

p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Zero proof. No facts there. An assumption at best. By using the data on hand you may have missed by more if on stock brakes.

Oh so when the facts don't fit your argument anymore than they aren't facts? You're arguing not being rational. Brembos are better even on stock tires. Even on the first stop. It might only be 10% better but they are better. I will agree the longevitey is a much better reason to have them but they do still stop you faster even on stock tires, sorry.

EDIT: and ESPECIALLY with a larger tires!

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p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:06 PM

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Exactly. If she could stop in that distance with her stock Camry brakes he should have been way back by his theory.

You aren't accounting for reaction time which I wasn't given ANY.

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Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:15 PM

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You aren't accounting for reaction time which I wasn't given ANY.

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She was the first car in traffic? She had loads but you didn't? You are a pilot but some woman in a Camry has better reaction time?

I give up!
You are 100% correct big brakes make you stop faster.
The data, my engineers that have done this their whole working carrier and the Brembo engineer that said otherwise are all wrong.

p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

She was the first car in traffic? She had loads but you didn't? You are a piolet but some woman in a Camry has better reaction time?

I give up!
You are 100% correct big brakes make you stop faster.
The data, my engineers that have done this their whole working carrier and the Brembo engineer that said otherwise are all wrong.

No it started way up ahead of us, the first guy jams the brakes, the second, the 3rd, by the time it gets to her she hit the brakes and barely missed the car in front of her that doesn't leave me with anything. Each person's reaction time subtracts from what's left for the person behind them. Maybe I should been a bit further back from her but let's be real if you leave too much space other people just fill the gap on you anyway negating it and I wasn't like tailgating her or anything. Either way that 10% made all the difference.

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Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:23 PM

So guys how is the weather where you are?

p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:23 PM

That 10th of a second... that 10%.. an inch or a mile.. The Gazelle doesn't have to be faster than the Lion. The Gazelle only has to be faster than the other Gazelles.. sometimes it matters that's all I'm saying! Also that YES it is more than if you can lock up the tires or not.. even if it is a minor amount.

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Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:25 PM

Anybody do anything interesting today?

p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:28 PM

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Anybody do anything interesting today?

Nope wasted it proving you wrong.

nah you were right about it being mostly* for cooling /longevity but I was right that they are still better even on the very first stop (because you know you only stop once per drive) even if it's only 10% better. When both sides have valid points thats when the best arguments happen.

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Leonardo · 06-13-2016, 08:28 PM

Doing something twice a week = 28.49% of the days in a year.

p1l0t · 06-13-2016, 08:29 PM

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Nope wasted it proving you wrong.

nah you were right about it being mostly* for cooling /longevity but I was right that they are still better even on the very first stop (because you know you only stop once per drive) even if it's only 10% better. When both sides have valid points thats when the best arguments happen.

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Although I never denied they cool better or last longer..

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Tcoat · 06-13-2016, 08:35 PM

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Nope wasted it proving you wrong.

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