I'm looking at power options

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Shutter

ask jeeves lol, omg I'm dying @wbradley

jeeves is Siri and Cortana's dad didn't you know

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by 3ndagor

everyone just questioning why I want this setup and no one really answering my question?!

Cops in my region are anal about sound and exhaust legality .. so I'm a stay ''legal''

and FI because track days

dude I have a 3inch exhaust all around with a non-catted jdl uel header and a c38 supercharger and believe me when I say my shit is loud.... Yet I'm from the same area as you and don't get bothered ever (btw my car is safety'd as modified so even if they wanted to they can't annoy me).


As long as you don't go rice(sound like a civic) they'll leave you alone.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by 3ndagor

everyone just questioning why I want this setup and no one really answering my question?!

Cops in my region are anal about sound and exhaust legality .. so I'm a stay ''legal''

and FI because track days

Ok, then forget turbo. There's almost no way to keep it exhaust-legal. The stock exhaust has 2 cats. 1 in the header, 1 in the frontpipe. all turbos delete the primary cat, because the turbo manifold replaces the header... (Except for the monstrosity of a turbo system that "Works" is selling... Heh, oxymoron... Seriously don't spent money on that joke of a system.)

Get a supercharger and a catted UEL header. That's the simplest, easiest, cheapest, most low-maintenance route to achieve your objectives. Since it's clear that other input isn't changing your mind.

If you are a track-day guy, I'd suggest one of the positive-displacement units like the Sprintex or E-force before a centrifugal unit, but whatever. Linear power delivery is better for tracking. Centrifugal superchargers don't deliver linear power, as torque tends to have a positive slope on those systems. It can make them "feel" more rewarding, but again, whatever... I could explain more, but whatever.

That should answer your question

[Luftwaffel]

Track days and low noise?
If you want low end grunt, positive displacement s/c.
Suitcase style cat back (Perrin, Q300) resonated and absolutely not over 2.5". You're not losing much, if any power versus a 3" at unless you're pushing a metric ass ton of power.
Resonated catted frontpipe.
Who gives a shit about the over pipe, run whatever.
Catless UEL headers of your choice, nothing with a flex joint if you don't want to develop leaks.

[kch]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

all turbos delete the primary cat, because the turbo manifold replaces the header... (Except for the monstrosity of a turbo system that "Works" is selling... Heh, oxymoron... Seriously don't spent money on that joke of a system.)

don't forget PTuning! theirs is actually capable, if a bit convoluted.

[Spartarus]

Originally Posted by kch

don't forget PTuning! theirs is actually capable, if a bit convoluted.

True, but any good setup involving that kit is catless. I'd be terrified to leave an OEM ceramic cat upstream of a turbo worth any money.

When that thing disintegrates, which it will, no more turbo.

[3ndagor]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

Ok, then forget turbo. There's almost no way to keep it exhaust-legal. The stock exhaust has 2 cats. 1 in the header, 1 in the frontpipe. all turbos delete the primary cat, because the turbo manifold replaces the header... (Except for the monstrosity of a turbo system that "Works" is selling... Heh, oxymoron... Seriously don't spent money on that joke of a system.)

Get a supercharger and a catted UEL header. That's the simplest, easiest, cheapest, most low-maintenance route to achieve your objectives. Since it's clear that other input isn't changing your mind.

If you are a track-day guy, I'd suggest one of the positive-displacement units like the Sprintex or E-force before a centrifugal unit, but whatever. Linear power delivery is better for tracking. Centrifugal superchargers don't deliver linear power, as torque tends to have a positive slope on those systems. It can make them "feel" more rewarding, but again, whatever... I could explain more, but whatever.

That should answer your question

would you care to explain more on the positive slope and lack of linear power on centrifugal superchargers?

[3ndagor]

Think I have found what I was looking for with a final drive correction and an OFT/header and full exhaust combo


best bang for buck of the get go.


probably a Centrifugal supercharger on the long run

[Dr. BRZ]

Originally Posted by 3ndagor

would you care to explain more on the positive slope and lack of linear power on centrifugal superchargers?

dont be lazy. scroll down the page and read the FORCE INDUCTION tab. click on it and READ.

[Packofcrows]

e85, intake and exhaust. Good enough for DD.

Or...


trade in for Mustang.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dr. BRZ

dont be lazy. scroll down the page and read the FORCE INDUCTION tab. click on it and READ.

In fairness the link isn't always at the bottom (I do not show it right now) since it picks based on search functions.


All the info however can be found here:


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96158

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Spartarus

Ok, then forget turbo. There's almost no way to keep it exhaust-legal. The stock exhaust has 2 cats. 1 in the header, 1 in the frontpipe. all turbos delete the primary cat, because the turbo manifold replaces the header... (Except for the monstrosity of a turbo system that "Works" is selling... Heh, oxymoron... Seriously don't spent money on that joke of a system.)

Get a supercharger and a catted UEL header. That's the simplest, easiest, cheapest, most low-maintenance route to achieve your objectives. Since it's clear that other input isn't changing your mind.

If you are a track-day guy, I'd suggest one of the positive-displacement units like the Sprintex or E-force before a centrifugal unit, but whatever. Linear power delivery is better for tracking. Centrifugal superchargers don't deliver linear power, as torque tends to have a positive slope on those systems. It can make them "feel" more rewarding, but again, whatever... I could explain more, but whatever.

That should answer your question

actually in QC what he means by legal exhaust is not a "sniffer test" or DB test but rather cops poking a stick in your exhaust to ensure it isn't straight pipe or shit like that (hence why they mostly only bother civics, integra type ricers). As long as he has no leaks he should be fine.

[Shark_Bait88]

Originally Posted by 3ndagor

and FI because track days

I know plenty of NA Toyobarus chasing down much "faster" cars at track days.

[cdrazic93]

and Im looking through a window.