CSG and RCE tag-team suspension Q&A thread! Ask us anything!

[DeaconRoc]

I'm looking to get a roll centre correction kit. The two options I have are the whiteline kit and a summit racing kit. I've added pictures below showing the difference between the two. The summit kit is bigger and chunkier so I believe it will correct for more of a drop and be more robust. It's also over twice the price. My question is is it worth it? Will the summit kit being bigger and chunkier be worth the over double cost?

Summit left, whiteline right:-





Appreciate any feedback I can get.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

I'm looking to get a roll centre correction kit. The two options I have are the whiteline kit and a summit racing kit. I've added pictures below showing the difference between the two. The summit kit is bigger and chunkier so I believe it will correct for more of a drop and be more robust. It's also over twice the price. My question is is it worth it? Will the summit kit being bigger and chunkier be worth the over double cost?

Summit left, whiteline right:-





Appreciate any feedback I can get.

Angled one is legit much beefier too. Not sure why Whiteline made theirs straight...

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by solidONE

Angled one is legit much beefier too. Not sure why Whiteline made theirs straight...

Yeah being angled should help with more correction ss I understand it - worth over double though?

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

Yeah being angled should help with more correction ss I understand it - worth over double though?

I suppose it would depend on how much you plan on lowering your car and what you're planning to do with it. Though it does sound quite expensive.

Here's just from looking at the 2 tie rod ends.

Whiteline: Aside from the slightly longer stud on the ball joint it appears to be nearly the same as the factory tie rod.

Summit: The entire assembly looks to be thicker and possibly stronger than the factory or whiteline unit. Also, the ball joint location is shifted upward rather than just a lengthened stud on the ball joint to account for the geometry changed due to lowering. I'm sure if you emailed the company producing this part they will tell you all about why this is superior to their competitors lower priced part.

Is it worth double the cost, which is probably north of $400USD for the set? I'd think it will really depend on what you are trying to do and how you've set up your car. Is it slammed? Do you beat on it so hard that you'd benefit from a part like this (drifting)? What is the warranty being offered?

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by solidONE

I suppose it would depend on how much you plan on lowering your car and what you're planning to do with it. Though it does sound quite expensive.

Here's just from looking at the 2 tie rod ends.

Whiteline: Aside from the slightly longer stud on the ball joint it appears to be nearly the same as the factory tie rod.

Summit: The entire assembly looks to be thicker and possibly stronger than the factory or whiteline unit. Also, the ball joint location is shifted upward rather than just a lengthened stud on the ball joint to account for the geometry changed due to lowering. I'm sure if you emailed the company producing this part they will tell you all about why this is superior to their competitors lower priced part.

Is it worth double the cost, which is probably north of $400USD for the set? I'd think it will really depend on what you are trying to do and how you've set up your car. Is it slammed? Do you beat on it so hard that you'd benefit from a part like this (drifting)? What is the warranty being offered?

I'm lowered between about 40 and 50mm. I use the car for a daily driver, fast road and sprinting. I do around 6 events per year usually. The warranty is the same on both - 1 year.

The whiteline kit is around $250 and the summit kit around $550.

I can see that the summit kit is better but I can't work out whether it's overkill for my use and so not worth the cost?

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

I'm lowered between about 40 and 50mm. I use the car for a daily driver, fast road and sprinting. I do around 6 events per year usually. The warranty is the same on both - 1 year.

The whiteline kit is around $250 and the summit kit around $550.

I can see that the summit kit is better but I can't work out whether it's overkill for my use and so not worth the cost?

It's probably a good idea to ask the specs on the 2 kits. I'm sure there is range each kit is designed for. Then you can decide if it worthwhile.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Never seen the Summit roll center kit...neat. Do they have specs on how far they relocate the balljoint?

- Andrew

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Never seen the Summit roll center kit...neat. Do they have specs on how far they relocate the balljoint?

- Andrew

I have emailed to ask for specs. I'll update with any info I get.

From the looks of it would you agree the summit kit should do a better job than the whiteline kit Andrew and be worth the extra cost?

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

I have emailed to ask for specs. I'll update with any info I get.

From the looks of it would you agree the summit kit should do a better job than the whiteline kit Andrew and be worth the extra cost?

It certainly does look beefier. Do you have a side shot of the WL and Summit balljoints (not tie rod ends) next to each other?

- Andrew

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

It certainly does look beefier. Do you have a side shot of the WL and Summit balljoints (not tie rod ends) next to each other?

- Andrew

Only the two pictures I posted I'm afraid.

I think I am leaning towards the summit kit as it does look like it'll take more abuse and correct more for the amount I'm lowered. The price is the big sticking point though - I am struggling a little with it being worth over twice the price of the whiteline kit and whether it will be overkill for fast road use and the 6 days of sprints I do.

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

It certainly does look beefier. Do you have a side shot of the WL and Summit balljoints (not tie rod ends) next to each other?

- Andrew

I managed to get a picture of the two ball joints side by side:-



I know it's only based on the pictures but would you recommend the summit kit over the whiteline considering the price difference Andrew?

[Racecomp Engineering]

If you're lowered a lot, then yes it would make a more noticeable difference. I can't tell you if it's worth the extra money though.

- Anrew

[DeaconRoc]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

If you're lowered a lot, then yes it would make a more noticeable difference. I can't tell you if it's worth the extra money though.

- Anrew

I'm lowered around 40mm. Although my wallet says no I think everything is pointing to the summit kit as the one to go for.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by DeaconRoc

I'm lowered around 40mm. Although my wallet says no I think everything is pointing to the summit kit as the one to go for.

If you really don't want to spend that money and want eliminate some of the bumpsteer or correct roll center... you can always raise the car a bit too. lol

edit: @DeaconRoc any word on the specs of the Summit kit?