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Old 06-18-2012, 10:54 AM   #99
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So the staged tune with cable that you plan to sell, can be taken back to stock? DIY type thing?

Yup.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:50 AM   #100
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Yup!

Your going to spend $600 and not be able to make custom changes yourself.

Only ProTuners will be able to.

They're plans to release a copy of the software that will let you makes changes yourself but not during the initial release

Btw this is not a uncommon thing

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http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Acc...-p/atr-sub.htm

This is what I am used to for my AccessPort that I have for my Legacy GT. If Cobb is providing a free solution to users that have purchased their device, why are you saying it is not uncommon to have your product locked down?
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:51 AM   #101
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Guess I'll just keep waiting until I can tune it myself. Any ballpark guess as to how long it will be?

Also, can you comment a bit on the interface for tuning the D4-S? Can you control all eight injectors separately?
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:13 PM   #102
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http://www.cobbtuning.com/Subaru-Acc...-p/atr-sub.htm

This is what I am used to for my AccessPort that I have for my Legacy GT. If Cobb is providing a free solution to users that have purchased their device, why are you saying it is not uncommon to have your product locked down?
Yes for your car it is free right now.

Normally right during launch Cobb does not offer a free version or any version of the software to a non - pro tuner.

This has always been the case.

Example - Cobb has no end user software for BMW

Example - Cobbs Gtr end user software is $800.

I've never said end user software would not exist - just said not now , ProTuner software needs to come first!

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Old 06-18-2012, 02:45 PM   #103
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I have been e-mailing John and PMing him and he's been very responsive.

John - Just to be clear, which of the following does ECUTEK give full or partial control over?:

Port Injector mapping
Direct Injector mapping
ignition mapping
Target A/F mapping
VVT mapping (all 4 cams)
Knock response mapping
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Good Question.

Let me find out exactly what EcuTek has done so far.

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John - any luck getting the answers to these questions?
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:47 PM   #104
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I posted a few screenshots the other day that should awnser your questions.

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Ok, ECUTek has had some really bad PR in the past due to some questionable decisions. So myself and others would like some simple yes/no answers if possible, please.

(Peanut gallery, ethical discussions of map switching for service can be done in another thread. These questions are hypothetical only.)

Am I right in assuming that if we buy the cable, we can make a backup of our stock ECU so we can revert to stock at any time?

If a tuner uses their software/cable to write my ECU, can I use MY cable to revert to stock?

Can I use MY cable to back up a pro-tuner's custom tune so that I can re-apply it if I have to revert to stock for servicing?

After receiving a tune via ECUTek's software, will a standardized OBD-II data logger still work?

If not, will ECUTek provide free logger software that can save files in a common format (CSV file)?

Thank you.
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Old 06-18-2012, 04:11 PM   #106
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I posted a few screenshots the other day that should awnser your questions.

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I find assumption to be the mother of all **** ups.

I would like a commitment (in writing) that it allows full control over those areas.
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Ok, ECUTek has had some really bad PR in the past due to some questionable decisions. So myself and others would like some simple yes/no answers if possible, please.

(Peanut gallery, ethical discussions of map switching for service can be done in another thread. These questions are hypothetical only.)

Am I right in assuming that if we buy the cable, we can make a backup of our stock ECU so we can revert to stock at any time?

If a tuner uses their software/cable to write my ECU, can I use MY cable to revert to stock?

Can I use MY cable to back up a pro-tuner's custom tune so that I can re-apply it if I have to revert to stock for servicing?

After receiving a tune via ECUTek's software, will a standardized OBD-II data logger still work?

If not, will ECUTek provide free logger software that can save files in a common format (CSV file)?

Thank you.
Yes, yes , yes and yes

Some of the ecutek data logging is custom features that might not work with a generic data logger - but there is ton of oem stuff to log.

If you purchase the ecutek cable you can do a lot.

Backing up your ProTuner map can be done but will only be able to go back into your car- not another one.

Hope that helps

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Yes, yes , yes and yes

Some of the ecutek data logging is custom features that might not work with a generic data logger - but there is ton of oem stuff to log.

If you purchase the ecutek cable you can do a lot.

Backing up your ProTuner map can be done but will only be able to go back into your car- not another one.

Hope that helps

John
Awesome. It sounds like the new ECUTek product will give us the control over our maps that we as owners want.

Thank you for the answers. I'm looking forward to seeing what the tuners can do with this car and the ECUTek software.
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Awesome. It sounds like the new ECUTek product will give us the control over our maps that we as owners want.

Thank you for the answers. I'm looking forward to seeing what the tuners can do with this car and the ECUTek software.
Im pumped as well!

I wasn't always a tuner so I share everyone's concerns.
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The next question is when will it be ready for shipping?
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I find assumption to be the mother of all **** ups.

I would like a commitment (in writing) that it allows full control over those areas.
Still waiting. I also looked, and I actually don't see a target A/F ratio table....
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Can't wait for tuning options i want to get the turbo on already
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