Wrecked FR-S Crash Already - Not Mine

[russv]

I wonder if his insurance company reads this forum?

[neutral]

Originally Posted by russv

I wonder if his insurance company reads this forum?

Why should it matter? I told them what I did. Not like they're gonna deny me coverage for being stupid. If that was the case, we'd have a lot of denied insurance claims...

[Hamza7]

My deepest condolences to the owner, I know every time I get accident minor or major. I feel absolutely gutted.

For the rest of you DRIVE SAFE

[sdshores08]

I'm glad no one was hurt. Giving a car some gas through a corner with no one else around doesn't seem like a heinous idea, and it's something I probably would have tried myself at low speeds like this. Thanks to Neutral for sharing his story, and to the finer members around here offering good advice about autocross events instead of complaining about insurance rates, I will definitely find an autocross event nearby to learn the limits of this car and satisfy the desire to drive it how it was designed to be driven.

[ToxicSneakers]

Originally Posted by sdshores08

I'm glad no one was hurt. Giving a car some gas through a corner with no one else around doesn't seem like a heinous idea, and it's something I probably would have tried myself at low speeds like this. Thanks to Neutral for sharing his story, and to the finer members around here offering good advice about autocross events instead of complaining about insurance rates, I will definitely find an autocross event nearby to learn the limits of this car and satisfy the desire to drive it how it was designed to be driven.

Way!

[thill]

Originally Posted by dookie11

This was the only thing I was thinking the whole time I read the OP. Less than a month, and the statistics start to build...

Sorry, but this is simply not true. If it was, nobody would be able to afford insurance on almost any sports car out there. If you are a good driver with a clean record, insurance companies will want to keep you and will be very competitive in terms of insuring this car.

[FT_Monk]

So many driving geniuses in this thread; VSC/TSC/ABS are hindrance to their superior driving skills. Of course they don't tell you when they crashed.

[fito68]

Taking a right hand turn at 20? the street isnt a fucking track!

[russv]

Originally Posted by neutral

Why should it matter? I told them what I did. Not like they're gonna deny me coverage for being stupid. If that was the case, we'd have a lot of denied insurance claims...

Why admit to turning off the traction control?

[titusdrake]

*salute*

we can all learn from this. Keep ur damn traction control on.

[neutral]

Originally Posted by russv

Why admit to turning off the traction control?

Why lie? They aren't there to judge and decide whether I'm worthy to receive coverage. They're there because I pay them money to insure my vehicle.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by fito68

Taking a right hand turn at 20? the street isnt a fucking track!

What tracks have 20mph turns!?!

[neutral]

Originally Posted by RRnold

What tracks have 20mph turns!?!

Yeah I couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic or not...

[ChrisH]

Originally Posted by blur

Same thing happened with the MR2, toyota had to neuter it... honestly a simple spring swap with the BRZ springs should reduce incidents like this. Maybe scion should organize free HPDE events for FRS owners, maybe word will get around as the car gets more popular that this car has a kick to it.

And not every car behaves like this at the limit, a RWD with an open diff wouldn't oversteer like that. Not many RWD cars come factory with LSD or such an aggressive suspension tune.

Blur, please don't take that personal, but there is nothing at all you can do to keep a 200 hp RWD car in a 20 mph corner from hanging the back out, if you just shift down and go full throttle. Otherwise it would be complete crap, not a sports car. And even if it does not happen on dry tarmac (e.g. due to low corner entry speed or high performance tires), than you will see the back coming in the wet.
An LSD actually makes the car better controllable in a drift. But belive me, you can hang the back out also without LSD.

If anyone should be too worried about a RWD car behaving like a RWD car and don't want to learn, how to handle such a car ..... then better buy a Golf.

Originally Posted by FT_Monk

So many driving geniuses in this thread; VSC/TSC/ABS are hindrance to their superior driving skills. Of course they don't tell you when they crashed.

Yes, it's possible!
I have stopped doing crashes many years ago - after I found out that it is no fun!

Seriously, wasn't this exactly the point with the 86/BRZ/FR-S? A car, that is easy to drive, even in the wet!!

There are sure cars today, that are a little dangerous without VSC/TSC/ABS , especially in the wet. An example would be the BMW 135i with these poor RFT-tires. Or take some mid-engine cars.