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Old 04-18-2016, 03:56 PM   #15
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I've only run the stage 1 93 tune and the el e85 tune F00C, both of those have the iam working.
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Old 04-18-2016, 06:05 PM   #16
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I've only run the stage 1 93 tune and the el e85 tune F00C, both of those have the iam working.
Hmm...maybe I should try the 93 tune too. F00C for me too.
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@steve99 @Shiv@Openflash as you may already read about my issues with my OFT not reading MAF voltage aswell as IAM and maybe even other data channels aswell I would like to add that when I flashed the new OFH tune on my car using a non OFH (1320 uel) now all those data channels are working fine as I now get MAF voltage and IAM readings with the OFH map. Is there a way I could take OTD Stg 2 91 UEL F00C tune and apply only tune numbers/values/parameters whatever is the proper word onto the OFH tune and overwrite those values just so that I could have the tune from OTS stg 2 but also have what ever it is about the OFH map that allows the OFT to read the MAF voltage, IAM???
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Old 04-19-2016, 12:31 PM   #18
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@steve99 @Shiv@Openflash as you may already read about my issues with my OFT not reading MAF voltage aswell as IAM and maybe even other data channels aswell I would like to add that when I flashed the new OFH tune on my car using a non OFH (1320 uel) now all those data channels are working fine as I now get MAF voltage and IAM readings with the OFH map. Is there a way I could take OTD Stg 2 91 UEL F00C tune and apply only tune numbers/values/parameters whatever is the proper word onto the OFH tune and overwrite those values just so that I could have the tune from OTS stg 2 but also have what ever it is about the OFH map that allows the OFT to read the MAF voltage, IAM???



The oft logging works by reading ECU ram addresses. unfortunately for each rom type ie B01C D00C F00C ect these addresses change.


It possible that your older tune was based on a rom id where the logging addresses did not work, but the newer tune is based on a rom that the addresses work.


something you will have to take up with oft guys.


internally in oft it likely looks something like we use with Tactrix, and each rom type will have a different address


paramname = IAM
paramid = 0xFFF8119C
isfloat = 1


paramname = MAF_V
paramid = 0xFFF842AC
databits = 16
scalingrpn = x,0.000076293945,*

paramname = IAT
paramid = 0xFFF87C64
isfloat = 1

paramname = ECT
paramid = 0xFFF87C68
isfloat = 1

paramname = BattVolt
paramid = 0xFFF87C6C
isfloat = 1

paramname = MAF
paramid = 0xFFF87C70
isfloat = 1

paramname = OilTemp
paramid = 0xFFF87C74
isfloat = 1


 
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The oft logging works by reading ECU ram addresses. unfortunately for each rom type ie B01C D00C F00C ect these addresses change.


It possible that your older tune was based on a rom id where the logging addresses did not work, but the newer tune is based on a rom that the addresses work.


something you will have to take up with oft guys.


internally in oft it likely looks something like we use with Tactrix, and each rom type will have a different address


paramname = IAM
paramid = 0xFFF8119C
isfloat = 1


paramname = MAF_V
paramid = 0xFFF842AC
databits = 16
scalingrpn = x,0.000076293945,*

paramname = IAT
paramid = 0xFFF87C64
isfloat = 1

paramname = ECT
paramid = 0xFFF87C68
isfloat = 1

paramname = BattVolt
paramid = 0xFFF87C6C
isfloat = 1

paramname = MAF
paramid = 0xFFF87C70
isfloat = 1

paramname = OilTemp
paramid = 0xFFF87C74
isfloat = 1


 
Or I guess it is easier if i used romraider and change the values in the table of the OFH and put that of the numbers from the OTS stage 2. Or is it much more complicated than that? Lol damn. I guess this calls for a "custom tune" from openflash. Do you do your own custom tuning? What.part in the map do you mainly make adjustments to?
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Or I guess it is easier if i used romraider and change the values in the table of the OFH and put that of the numbers from the OTS stage 2. Or is it much more complicated than that? Lol damn. I guess this calls for a "custom tune" from openflash. Do you do your own custom tuning? What.part in the map do you mainly make adjustments to?

I think it may be a problem with the oft logging or the tune.


post up a copy of the tune that was getting heaps of knock,
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I think it may be a problem with the oft logging or the tune.


post up a copy of the tune that was getting heaps of knock,
Here is the OTS Stg2 91 UEL F00C that I use from the latest OTS v2.076 off the website. I checked the older OTS v2.072 and OTS v2.074 and the dates on this one .bin are all dated 9/21/2015 and in the release notes

"9/22/15
v2.069
-Added Flat-foot-Shift (FFS) and Launch Control (LC) functionality to all 6MT F00C ROMs.
-Added revised XML file (with FFS and LC defined) for F00C Calibration ID."

I double checked my old logs and it appears i've been running -5 FLKC the whole time since I bought and flashed with the OTS map and that is almost 2 months now. I'm really hoping im not destroying my motor. My car is only 6 months old from the dealership damn lol
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File Type: zip Stg 2 UEL F00C.zip (543.3 KB, 115 views)
File Type: txt Release Notes.txt (10.6 KB, 648 views)
File Type: zip OFT_ZA1JF00C.zip (50.5 KB, 98 views)
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I take it back, the el e85 tune doesn't have iam working. Also my flck runs -2.5 to -3.2 or so.
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Out of the 10 or so datalogs I have done, my off reads 0v for may at all times am I doing something wrong?

http://datazap.me/u/brzeddie/log-145...=0&data=1-3-13

BTW, this is on a F00C.
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Here is the OTS Stg2 91 UEL F00C that I use from the latest OTS v2.076 off the website. I checked the older OTS v2.072 and OTS v2.074 and the dates on this one .bin are all dated 9/21/2015 and in the release notes

"9/22/15
v2.069
-Added Flat-foot-Shift (FFS) and Launch Control (LC) functionality to all 6MT F00C ROMs.
-Added revised XML file (with FFS and LC defined) for F00C Calibration ID."

I double checked my old logs and it appears i've been running -5 FLKC the whole time since I bought and flashed with the OTS map and that is almost 2 months now. I'm really hoping im not destroying my motor. My car is only 6 months old from the dealership damn lol
I just looked at the F00C tune you posted up in romraider. The rom is actually a F00C rom its not had any calid changes.

also the max timing is about 24 degrees in base B plus about 2.5 in Knock correction so total max is about 26 at engine load 1.3

Strangely the logs you posted show ignition advance of 33 degrees, this appears to be bogus as does the FLCK parameter as is constantly -5, even when your coasting off the throttle.

ie the tune looks ok, but i think the logging parameters are mostly incorrect.
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Just want let you know that Shiv sent me a stg 2 91 uel f00c rom to test if the OFT reads the MAFv and IAM. After flashing this I am happy to say that the OFT does report MAFv and IAM and FLKC (btw flkc used to report mostly -5. but now it is at "0" most of the time) And as he requested, I did somde some 2k-7.5k WOT 3rd gears pulls and sent him the logs.
here are my logs from the pulls after this flash

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...data=1-2-12-13

this is what I was getting with the OTS Stg 2 91 UEL prior

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/ots-s...d?log=0&data=1
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Just want let you know that Shiv sent me a stg 2 91 uel f00c rom to test if the OFT reads the MAFv and IAM. After flashing this I am happy to say that the OFT does report MAFv and IAM and FLKC (btw flkc used to report mostly -5. but now it is at "0" most of the time) And as he requested, I did somde some 2k-7.5k WOT 3rd gears pulls and sent him the logs.
here are my logs from the pulls after this flash

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...data=1-2-12-13

this is what I was getting with the OTS Stg 2 91 UEL prior

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/ots-s...d?log=0&data=1
Some slight knock, have seen worse. I would focus on getting your maf scale right, first.
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Just want let you know that Shiv sent me a stg 2 91 uel f00c rom to test if the OFT reads the MAFv and IAM. After flashing this I am happy to say that the OFT does report MAFv and IAM and FLKC (btw flkc used to report mostly -5. but now it is at "0" most of the time) And as he requested, I did somde some 2k-7.5k WOT 3rd gears pulls and sent him the logs.
here are my logs from the pulls after this flash

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/stg-2...data=1-2-12-13

this is what I was getting with the OTS Stg 2 91 UEL prior

http://www.datazap.me/u/dru670/ots-s...d?log=0&data=1

Yes it all seems to be logging normal now timing and FLKC now look normal
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MAF scale?....oh boy...ill be up till 4am again studying on how to do that lol.
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Just check links of steve99's sig. He made guide to describe / simplify that and many other things.
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