Turbo kit directly from Subaru - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

rzpld4 · 04-07-2016, 09:35 PM

I have an FR-S.

The other day I was was at a local Subaru dealer to get a Footwell lighting kit and got to talking to one of the service managers about forced induction. He mentioned that since I have an FA20 engine and the same engine goes into the Subaru forester (FA20 + turbo) that it was possible to buy all the additional parts in order to bolt on a Subaru turbo kit to the FR-S.

I've attempted to Google this and search the forums but did not find anything. In theory his idea sounds plausible. Has anyone tried this? Would additional changes be necessary such as maybe stronger pistons, etc.?

He was not certain but mentioned the parts to be around $1800, which sounds a bit low. He also mentioned that they could do they work, but only for out of warranty vehicles.

Thought/Comments?

turbocat · 04-07-2016, 09:47 PM

Stock for stock it won't fit for many reasons. Better off buying an aftermarket turbo kit designed for the twins.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69032

swarb · 04-07-2016, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rzpld4

I have an FR-S.

The other day I was was at a local Subaru dealer to get a Footwell lighting kit and got to talking to one of the service managers about forced induction. He mentioned that since I have an FA20 engine and the same engine goes into the Subaru forester (FA20 + turbo) that it was possible to buy all the additional parts in order to bolt on a Subaru turbo kit to the FR-S.

I've attempted to Google this and search the forums but did not find anything. In theory his idea sounds plausible. Has anyone tried this? Would additional changes be necessary such as maybe stronger pistons, etc.?

He was not certain but mentioned the parts to be around $1800, which sounds a bit low. He also mentioned that they could do they work, but only for out of warranty vehicles.

Thought/Comments?

Similar engine. But also many differences. Not the same.
$1800 for what? just the turbo? I think he is missing a zero in there.
Yeah sure they can do the work, but you want mechanics who work on stock cars all day to work on your modified vehicle?

The guy is just pulling your leg. Ask him to make a quote for parts and labor, see how fast he disappears or makes excuses.

swarb · 04-07-2016, 10:06 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79549

cdrazic93 · 04-07-2016, 10:13 PM

nnnnnnnnnnnope!

radroach · 04-07-2016, 10:13 PM

It's worrying when service managers start to make claims like these.

GsxrMe · 04-07-2016, 10:30 PM

Time to find a different dealer. The FA20 in the frs/brz is entirely different. All the way from the ecu to fuel system. Not to mention the exhaust exits to the other side of the motor. The wrx or legacy also uses a different oil pump, rods, pistons, cams and so on.

I personally started over a year ago thinkong a $6400 kit was possible and now I'm nearly 10k doing it all myself. So many supporting mods was required to make the car a daily driver it's nutz.

If you don't have atleast 10k for the kit, supporting mods and tune. Quit

go_a_way1 · 04-07-2016, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radroach

It's worrying when service managers start to make claims like these.

LOL I say OP takes the car and lets them do it and once they realise they are wrong he can fight them (provided he gets the quote to install a turbo on paper) and get them to make it work for $1800 at the expense of his warranty

wbradley · 04-08-2016, 12:14 AM

The service writer doesnt know shit.

86kahl · 04-08-2016, 12:43 AM

I say do it, service manger sounds like he totally knows what's involved with converting a factory N/A engine to a turbocharged one. 10/10 would recommend

Irace86 · 04-08-2016, 01:02 AM

People would swap the head of the 2jzgte to the block of the 2jzge. The only differences with the blocks were oil squirters for the pistons on the turbo block. This was done to save money in cases where this could be an option. Everything from the top was different. Maybe the blocks on the FA20 are the same but you would need everything else in the engine bay except the battery and fans--maybe a few other items. But what he proposed is ridiculous. There is no savings here.

Calum · 04-08-2016, 07:26 AM

I'd have a lot of fun with the service manager.

nikitopo · 04-08-2016, 07:49 AM

Someone in Austria did the swap. He imported a brand new fa20dit engine from Japan. Issue was that he couldn't get any certifications and the car wasn't road legal. From my point of view, it doesn't worth it.

Summerwolf · 04-08-2016, 09:17 AM

Do it, through them! They must know something everyone else doesn't.

A+ Service manager.

04-07-2016, 09:35 PM	#1
rzpld4 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Drives: 2015 FR-S Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Turbo kit directly from Subaru I have an FR-S. The other day I was was at a local Subaru dealer to get a Footwell lighting kit and got to talking to one of the service managers about forced induction. He mentioned that since I have an FA20 engine and the same engine goes into the Subaru forester (FA20 + turbo) that it was possible to buy all the additional parts in order to bolt on a Subaru turbo kit to the FR-S. I've attempted to Google this and search the forums but did not find anything. In theory his idea sounds plausible. Has anyone tried this? Would additional changes be necessary such as maybe stronger pistons, etc.? He was not certain but mentioned the parts to be around $1800, which sounds a bit low. He also mentioned that they could do they work, but only for out of warranty vehicles. Thought/Comments?

04-07-2016, 10:13 PM	#5
cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	nnnnnnnnnnnope! __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

04-07-2016, 10:30 PM	#7
GsxrMe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: Late 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 557 Thanks: 20 Thanked 184 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Time to find a different dealer. The FA20 in the frs/brz is entirely different. All the way from the ecu to fuel system. Not to mention the exhaust exits to the other side of the motor. The wrx or legacy also uses a different oil pump, rods, pistons, cams and so on. I personally started over a year ago thinkong a $6400 kit was possible and now I'm nearly 10k doing it all myself. So many supporting mods was required to make the car a daily driver it's nutz. If you don't have atleast 10k for the kit, supporting mods and tune. Quit __________________ 2014 Subaru BRZ FBM Turbokit: GTX3076R - ECUTEK HRI FlexFuel tune - FBM 3" Turboback Exhaust - 550cc Injectors - Walbro 485 Fuel Pump - 4bar Map Sensor - FBM Oil Pan - ACT SB7-XTSS - AMSOIL all fluids - Forester XT Oil Cooler - Cusco engine, trans mounts - Whiteline rear differential bushings - Perrin shifter bushing - Firehawk 235/45/17 - AEM Failsafe

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turbocat Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 13 BRZ SSM Location: PA Posts: 98 Thanks: 148 Thanked 55 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Stock for stock it won't fit for many reasons. Better off buying an aftermarket turbo kit designed for the twins. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69032

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nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Someone in Austria did the swap. He imported a brand new fa20dit engine from Japan. Issue was that he couldn't get any certifications and the car wasn't road legal. From my point of view, it doesn't worth it.

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