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Tcoat · 03-24-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

Go to 3:24 in this video http://livestream.com/Toyota/NY2016/videos/116716498

Sure sounds like it is only the manual. I was originally with you on the poor wording.

SHIT!

Tcoat · 03-24-2016, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by raven1231

I wonder if they tuned the car differently because of the manual gear ratio change and that also bumped the hp up 5.

AHHHH that makes me feel better! If just a tune then same engine and at least part of my ass talk theory is true.

We really need some more detailed specs I guess.

Ashikabi · 03-24-2016, 11:39 AM

So I'm installing a remote start and my bypass module requires different coding for the manual or auto transmission... So I guess it makes sense to me that they could just do it for manuals. Maybe they are trying to encourage manual transmission sales? Or it would be too difficult to do on the autos so they did what they could easily and called it good?

Tcoat · 03-24-2016, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by URACK

Yup, thats what I was referencing. It seems clear, but still doesn't make sense to me why they would do anything different just based on the transmission. If this is the case though, it points to just being a difference in tune most likely. The other problem I see with this is that even if it was just a tune, it would've been nice to eliminate the torque dip and that should be applicable to all cars not just MT.

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Originally Posted by raven1231

Might have still be done and just not mentioned. Although I'm not sure they could really eliminated it as it requires e85 or a header currently to do that.

Or they just simply don't think of it as a problem. For probably about 90% of the owners it probably isn't. They knew it was there when they first released the car and obviously were not worried about eliminating it then. Not like they got so far in the design and went "hey there is torque dip but let's not bother looking at it right now we will worry about that in 2016"

LOLS2K · 03-24-2016, 11:53 AM

+5HP because manual > automatic
aaaaaaannd go!

Tcoat · 03-24-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LOLS2K

+5HP because manual > automatic
aaaaaaannd go!

Should just about make up for the difference in the average person's ability to shift as fast as the AT.

LOLS2K · 03-24-2016, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Should just about make up for the difference in the average person's ability to shift as fast as the AT.

But for us above average folk...

CatScan · 03-24-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLS2K

But for us above average folk...

Need video of those shift skills!

HunterGreene · 03-24-2016, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

Someone has clearly never had Skyline. Looks awful, tastes like heaven.

And with the revelation about the hp difference between the two cars, I am willing to bet those hoping for a torque dip removal are going to be sadly disappointed.

LOLS2K · 03-24-2016, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CatScan

Need video of those shift skills!

In this case it would not be of relevance. I have a '13 and didn't get the 5hp bump

quik1987 · 03-24-2016, 02:15 PM

Is it Apple CarPlay ready?

NyC Zn6 · 03-24-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LOLS2K

In this case it would not be of relevance. I have a '13 and didn't get the 5hp bump

Pretty sure your drop in filter makes the same as hp bump for the 2017 86

LOLS2K · 03-24-2016, 02:24 PM

quik1987 · 03-24-2016, 02:31 PM

Also they cheaped out on the center console hvac

Instead of the nice BRZ one with start engine button

Why?

Happy they got rid of the red interior accents a fake carbon fiber though

86 logo on headlamps is a nice touch

Adding a button garnish moving it from the vent was unnecessary unless they're planning to make it functional

03-24-2016, 11:53 AM	#1153
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quik1987 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: Bugatti Veyron Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 141 Thanked 569 Times in 256 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s)	Also they cheaped out on the center console hvac Instead of the nice BRZ one with start engine button Why? Happy they got rid of the red interior accents a fake carbon fiber though 86 logo on headlamps is a nice touch Adding a button garnish moving it from the vent was unnecessary unless they're planning to make it functional

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