Performance Cars - Are we going too far?

[gramicci101]

Having driven a friend's modded 997tt and another friend's 996 GT3, if I had the money I would buy one in a heartbeat. Not because I take it to the track, or because I'm trying to go 180 on public roads, or because its 'Ring time is something special, but just because it's fun. Whether it's getting up to speed for an interstate or braking into a curve on a canyon road, they were a blast to drive. And driving a higher end 911 felt special, which was also fun. You don't need to be at 10/10ths all the time to enjoy the vehicle.

[fang_gt86]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

... You don't need to be at 10/10ths all the time to enjoy the vehicle.

True, but those cars are designed to be fun at triple-digits speed lol.

[86 South Africa]

Originally Posted by Mr.Impreza

http://www.speedhunters.com/2016/03/...ars-going-far/

This is a great article and i agree with all the points. Thought i would share for anybody who doesn't visit speedhunters.

I've been saying this for a while now, but so many people are caught up in the numbers game and it's true that most of the new cars are disconnected from the driver.
Look at the new NSX for example...it's in no way what the old NSX was about. It's just this computer programmed car that makes you feel like a pro on the track.

Anyways, most people don't even track so I don't understand this focus on track oritented cars. They just do it so people can say there car did this time on the nur.

This is exactly why i love our cars. They are so raw compared to the newer cars today which lack feel and a lot of times are over powered. Also we can enjoy our cars to the full potential.

Anyways, i love our cars and i hope these types of cars stay popular and get more popular in the future.

My last comment,
My 2002 stage 2 wrx had around 300hp and i could barely enjoy it. I could never take it to it's full potential, so i don't understand how people enjoy these 400+ luxury sedans and sports cars unless they go to the track every weekend.

I agree that the best part of the 86 is its feel... But I do wish I had more power. It's not that I want to race around everywhere, but driving my dad's M3 for e.g. - if I want to pass someone or get ahead of traffic or need to accelerate a bit, then having that 400hp is awesome.
So basically it's about having more options :-)

I do agree with the obsession with numbers though. Why are cars getting faster, but still weigh a ton! Why not much lighter? Lighter would mean faster, fuel efficiency, better cornering etc all in 1 go. Instead we have more power, more electronics, more of everything to compensate.

[fumanchu1]

Ok seriously what kind of fucking cars do you guys have on the road? (all those if I want to pass I'd like to be able to).


Funny, I used to own a stock is300 before that and never had any trouble shifting people and passing them if I wanted to with that fat pig with only 220hp. Most cars on the road are Hyundai elantras, chevy cruzes and other small shit like that or bigger luxo cars/truck/crossovers that don't speed.


I'm tired of all you guys talking about not being able to pass the cars with a 200hp twin like if all the cars on the road were nismo gtr's and gt500. most carrs are driven by people who shit their pants if they press the gas pedal more than halfways in and/or if they speed 20 over limit so stop talking as if everyone is the stig driving a McLaren


Yes there is the occasional a-hole with the high hp car that will refuse to let you pass him but guess what, who gives a shit, that's the minority so stop speaking like it's 99% of the people (I guess maybe Dubai excepted, because a lot of people there own insane cars). In theory, those people claiming the car is anemic and lacks power fail to understand most cars on the road have even less (most cars are used, a few year to a lot of years old, econo boxes with like 90-130hp. If you can't pass those than you have issues.


/end of rant

[RichardsFRS]

We have 700hp cars bought off show room floors; we've already gone to far.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

Ok seriously what kind of fucking cars do you guys have on the road? (all those if I want to pass I'd like to be able to).


Funny, I used to own a stock is300 before that and never had any trouble shifting people and passing them if I wanted to with that fat pig with only 220hp. Most cars on the road are Hyundai elantras, chevy cruzes and other small shit like that or bigger luxo cars/truck/crossovers that don't speed.


I'm tired of all you guys talking about not being able to pass the cars with a 200hp twin like if all the cars on the road were nismo gtr's and gt500. most carrs are driven by people who shit their pants if they press the gas pedal more than halfways in and/or if they speed 20 over limit so stop talking as if everyone is the stig driving a McLaren


Yes there is the occasional a-hole with the high hp car that will refuse to let you pass him but guess what, who gives a shit, that's the minority so stop speaking like it's 99% of the people (I guess maybe Dubai excepted, because a lot of people there own insane cars). In theory, those people claiming the car is anemic and lacks power fail to understand most cars on the road have even less (most cars are used, a few year to a lot of years old, econo boxes with like 90-130hp. If you can't pass those than you have issues.


/end of rant

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

We have 700hp cars bought off show room floors; we've already gone to far.

Yep! When you require a second key to unlock the full power they are sort of saying "look be careful eh".

[fumanchu1]

Bill Murray is clapping for me, my life is now complete.

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yep! When you require a second key to unlock the full power they are sort of saying "look be careful eh".

So you need the same security to access the full power as you need to launch nuke... gotcha, wonder if it comes with launch codes too

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

So you need the same security to access the full power as you need to launch nuke... gotcha, wonder if it comes with launch codes too

Nope just the red key!


"There is only one way to unleash the full potential of the 707 horsepower SRT® Hellcat engine in the 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcatand 2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, and that is with the red key that comes with the muscle-bound vehicles. In fact, each customer will receive two red keys and a single black key.
When the red key is in use, the full potential of the 707 horsepower SRT Hellcat engine is in full effect. To dispel some misconceptions, the only performance restriction that results from use of the Black key is limiting the horsepower output to 500."


There is only one way to unleash the full potential of the 707 horsepower SRT® Hellcat engine in the 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcatand 2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat, and that is with the red key that comes with the muscle-bound vehicles. In fact, each customer will receive two red keys and a single black key.
When the red key is in use, the full potential of the 707 horsepower SRT Hellcat engine is in full effect. To dispel some misconceptions, the only performance restriction that results from use of the Black key is limiting the horsepower output to 500.

[tennisfreak]

All I can say is that speed is addicting.

Speed and power, the more you get the more you want. I can't explain why but it is true.

I bought my GSX-R 600 while I still owned my FR-S.

It was the first fast vehicle I ever owned (car/truck/motorcycle/etc).

That rush was the beginning of the end. Then taking it to the track just made my addiction that much worse.

Soon I wanted more out of my car, so I got the Vette.

Then I wanted more out of my bike so now I've got a ZX-10R.

I need help

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

I need help

????

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

????

pffft!!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

pffft!!

Meh