2017 Toyota 86 - new name, styling, and more power

[ToySub1946]

Do tell me if I'm wrong here:

Appears there are absolutely zero changes to all the sheet metal pieces which go into the body makeup. That would make things simple at the factory which assembles the car. Only the soft plastic parts and headlamps/tailamps have changed. Very little down time to change things for assembly of these 2017 vehicles.

The good thing for many of us: The average looker at our current cars won't know we're driving an old model if we have a 13-16 model. Therefore, no reason to buy a new car just to show off.

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

calm down sailor, it's badged Toyota not lexus and from what I heard it will still come with the same options as the scion variant hence the brz is still the premium (unless you get a release series).


nice try though. (btw don't care what the badge says really, I bought mine used for a steal but had I gotten one new, it'd be a flip of a coin to figure out which one I would've ended up with). At the end of the day they're the same exact car.

Don't worry. I've since taken off my tinfoil hat.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by MisterSheep

In all honesty... This isn't a bad picture of the front end and actually looks very aggressive.

To repeat somebody else's statement it could look as funny as hell on a lava though!

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

You are all over?????


Bloody wantabe.

Meant like my mind is all over the place.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Do tell me if I'm wrong here:

Appears there are absolutely zero changes to all the sheet metal pieces which go into the body makeup. That would make things simple at the factory which assembles the car. Only the plastic parts and headlamps have changed. Very little down time to change things for assembly of these 2017 vehicles.

The good thing for many of us: The average looker at our current cars won't know we're driving an old model if we have a 13-16 model. Therefore, no reason to buy a new car just to show off.

LOL the average looker at our cars doesn't know what the hell it is much less what year it was made.


Remains to be seen if the sheet metal has been changed. You are correct that the tooling changes at the plant will be almost nothing.

[djsyndrome]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Do tell me if I'm wrong here:

Appears there are absolutely zero changes to all the sheet metal pieces which go into the body makeup. That would make things simple at the factory which assembles the car. Only the plastic parts and headlamps have changed. Very little down time to change things for assembly of these 2017 vehicles.

The good thing for many of us: The average looker at our current cars won't know we're driving an old model if we have a 13-16 model. Therefore, no reason to buy a new car just to show off.

This is normal for most Japanese MMCs - the hard points all remain the same and only the bumpers/lights/some interior bits change.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by ToySub1946

Do tell me if I'm wrong here:

Appears there are absolutely zero changes to all the sheet metal pieces which go into the body makeup. That would make things simple at the factory which assembles the car. Only the plastic parts and headlamps have changed. Very little down time to change things for assembly of these 2017 vehicles.

The good thing for many of us: The average looker at our current cars won't know we're driving an old model if we have a 13-16 model. Therefore, no reason to buy a new car just to show off.

Exactly I only see headlights, front bumper cover and taillights, spoiler, head unit and steering wheel and of course badges, as having been changed. Parts that are easily swapped off the assembly line and don't require retooling of machines

[MisterSheep]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL the average looker at our cars doesn't know what the hell it is much less what year it was made.


Remains to be seen if the sheet metal has been changed. You are correct that the tooling changes at the plant will be almost nothing.

I get asked at the very least once a month about my car from people who have no idea it exists! Not to mention all the people who just stare as I'm going by. Got a thumbs up by a guy in a newer Porsche yesterday

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by GhostRai

Front bumper is debatable, but the rest seems good. The new headlights are a nice improvement as well. As far as the interior goes, it seems like very little has changed but I do like their new steering wheel they say they have added. Although there are no pictures of the interior yet, I'm guessing the steering wheel will look close to what was seen on the Toyota SFR, unless they decide to go for a different style steering wheel.

Not a mystery there Ghost! Toyota has blessed us with a pic of that as well.

[shadoken]

Originally Posted by stevesnj

Interesting, what's the qualifier?

I feel like this change is sort of like the small refresh the Camaro 5th gen got in like 2013 iirc.
Something like the new Camaro six or the ND Miata is what i'd call a new gen.

[GhostRai]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not a mystery there Ghost! Toyota has blessed us with a pic of that as well.

Damn it Tcoat, I saw that picture and tried to delete my post before anyone saw... I do NOT like that new steering wheel, but if there are other trim options (maybe one with dual-zone climate) then that trim may add more buttons onto the right side of the steering wheel. I had actually hoped they would only change a few materials in the interior and maybe upgrade the plastics on the HVAC controls but leave the steering wheel alone

[TylerLieberman]

Definitely not a new gen. I'd call it a kouki model. Facelift and minor other changes. Everything major is still the same.

It's like the zenki and kouki 240sx, RSX etc. So '13-'16 would be a zenki. '17+ would be a kouki.

[Ethereal05]

Glad to see this re-branded as Toyota but I can't say I am a huge fan of the changes cosmetically. I don't care for the front bumper, LED head and tail lights, and steering wheel controls. The rear bumper, fender garnish and fender emblems are nice though. Let's not even talk about the performance changes.

[raven1231]

So it seems like all the clickbait articles were right. Wonder who their source is lol