Downshift vs neutral roll

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Celica00

I worded that strangely but I don't go from 6th gear straight to 1st. But it's good to know I can skip a gear here and there.




I've been called a loveable douche before so I guess my humor can seem like a **** sometimes.

Yes you can skip alternate gears. I don't because I drove truck or cars with no synchromesh trannys for a long time and the habit of using each gear just sort of stuck with me. It also helps prevent over reving since each using gear is a little more tolerant then skipping.

[Ashikabi]

I'd like to point out that I maintain speed for as long as possible and stop in a very short amount of space so I'm really not out of gear long. Just sayin

[Celica00]

What is second nature to you guys is a difficult art form to me.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Celica00

What is second nature to you guys is a difficult art form to me.

It will come with time I promise!
The sad part is that most of this is so easy to show and I could probably have you doing it like a pro in a few minutes if sitting in the car.
When it comes down to trying to describe the actions in print however...

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It will come with time I promise!
The sad part is that most of this is so easy to show and I could probably have you doing it like a pro in a few minutes if sitting in the car.
When it comes down to trying to describe the actions in print however...

You could always swing by on your next Las Vegas road trip.
Seems the only time anyone ever comes to Utah is by accident or en route to Vegas.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Celica00

You could always swing by on your next Las Vegas road trip.
Seems the only time anyone ever comes to Utah is by accident or en route to Vegas.

I went to salt lake to get my FRS

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

I went to salt lake to get my FRS

What brought you here to buy a car?

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Celica00

What brought you here to buy a car?

I found a good deal on eBay(turned out they fucked me) so I flew out to grab it

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Celica00

You could always swing by on your next Las Vegas road trip.
Seems the only time anyone ever comes to Utah is by accident or en route to Vegas.

Well I fly so that wouldn't work. Be back in the fall so if you feel like driving a while we can book some lessons (I hope you have it by then actually)

[Romanov]

I downshift as much as I can to a stop. Once at stop I'll put the clutch in and leave the car in first at a light. If I know I'm gonna be there for a while(long light or Alot of traffic) I'll put it in neutral and put the clutch out. But typically what I'm trying to say is that I always leave the car in gear in case of emergency. Coasting in neutral is a no-no for me.

[justatroll]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

You shouldn't be using heel toe if you're stopping. You heel toe to maintain high rpm while slowing down so you can better accelerate or for managing a drift. If you stop it's pointless. Just keep down shifting until you are going really slow

This is not entirely accurate.


Heel-toe is ONLY used when decelerating and is used to make the gear shift transitions smoother (less jerk on the wheels).
This is particularly important when trail-braking during hard cornering where if you shift too abruptly you can upset the car and loose traction in the rear.
Stopping is just a variation of decelerating.

You can also decelerate using JUST rev-matching and no braking...

In this car I use the extended gas pedal and instead of heel-toe I use both balls of my right foot.
Big toe on brake, right side on gas to blip.


In my Porsche the gas pedal hinges from the floor so I actually use the heel of my foot to blip the throttle.

[xFury]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well I fly so that wouldn't work. Be back in the fall so if you feel like driving a while we can book some lessons (I hope you have it by then actually)

When you come to Vegas and have some free time, let me know please lol. I still need to work on some of the basics still, and would love some lesson from ya.

I been rolling in gear till I come to a complete stop, but sometimes it just auto pilot into neutral, but been trying to stay in gear most of the time, down to 3rd and sometimes 2nd gear. Seems like my upshift is still a bit rough, car jumps slightly sometimes v__v

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by justatroll

This is not entirely accurate.


Heel-toe is ONLY used when decelerating and is used to make the gear shift transitions smoother (less jerk on the wheels).
This is particularly important when trail-braking during hard cornering where if you shift too abruptly you can upset the car and loose traction in the rear.
Stopping is just a variation of decelerating.

You can also decelerate using JUST rev-matching and no braking...

In this car I use the extended gas pedal and instead of heel-toe I use both balls of my right foot.
Big toe on brake, right side on gas to blip.


In my Porsche the gas pedal hinges from the floor so I actually use the heel of my foot to blip the throttle.

I dunno, I don't blip when I downshift, doesn't jerk or anything

[Teseo]

I down shift with heel-toe because racecar